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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: David Daney <ddaney@caviumnetworks.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Haley <aph@redhat.com>,
	Richard Guenther <richard.guenther@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	feng.tang@intel.com, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	jakub@redhat.com, gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: BUG: GCC-4.4.x changes the function frame on some functions
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:46:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091119194625.GE4967@nowhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1258658886.22249.874.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com>

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 02:28:06PM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 11:10 -0800, David Daney wrote:
> > Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> > For the MIPS port of GCC and Linux I recently added the 
> > -mmcount-ra-address switch.  It causes the location of the return 
> > address (on the stack) to be passed to mcount in a scratch register.
> 
> Hehe, scratch register on i686 ;-)
> 
> i686 has no extra regs. It just has:
> 
> %eax, %ebx, %ecx, %edx - as the general purpose regs
> %esp - stack
> %ebp - frame pointer
> %edi, %esi - counter regs
> 
> That's just 8 regs, and half of those are special.
> 
> > 
> > Perhaps something similar could be done for x86.  It would make this 
> > patching of the return location more reliable at the expense of more 
> > code at the mcount invocation site.
> 
> I rather not put any more code in the call site.
> 
> > 
> > For the MIPS case the code size doesn't increase, as it is done in the 
> > delay slot of the call instruction, which would otherwise be a nop.
> 
> I showed in a previous post what the best would be for x86. That is just
> calling mcount at the very beginning of the function. The return address
> is automatically pushed onto the stack.
> Perhaps we could create another profiler? Instead of calling mcount,
> call a new function: __fentry__ or something. Have it activated with
> another switch. This could make the performance of the function tracer
> even better without all these exceptions.
> 
> 	<function>:
> 		call __fentry__
> 		[...]
> 
> 	
> -- Steve


I would really like this. So that we can forget about other possible
further suprises due to sophisticated function prologues beeing before
the mcount call.

And I guess that would fix it in every archs.

That said, Linus had a good point about the fact there might other uses
of mcount even more tricky than what does the function graph tracer,
outside the kernel, and those may depend on the strict ABI assumption
that 4(ebp) is always the _real_ return address, and that through all
the previous stack call. This is even a concern that extrapolates the
single mcount case.

So I wonder that actually the real problem is the lack of something that
could provide this guarantee. We may need a -real-ra-before-fp (yeah
I suck in naming).


  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-19 19:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200911172214.nAHMEBh2023787@imap1.linux-foundation.org>
2009-11-18 19:30 ` [patch for 2.6.32? 1/3] hrtimers: remove the "timer_stats_active" check when setting the start info Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-18 20:24   ` [tip:timers/urgent] hrtimer: Fix /proc/timer_list regression tip-bot for Feng Tang
2009-11-19  7:20     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-19 10:05       ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-19 14:30         ` BUG: function graph tracer function frame assumptions Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-19 15:37           ` BUG: GCC-4.4.x changes the function frame on some functions Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-19 15:44             ` Andrew Haley
2009-11-19 15:54               ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-19 15:57                 ` Richard Guenther
2009-11-19 16:02               ` Steven Rostedt
2009-11-19 16:11                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-19 16:19                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-19 16:06               ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-19 16:17                 ` Andrew Haley
2009-11-19 16:43                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-19 16:12               ` Steven Rostedt
2009-11-19 15:45             ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-19 15:49               ` Richard Guenther
2009-11-19 15:52                 ` Richard Guenther
2009-11-19 17:37                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-19 17:39             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-19 17:51               ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-19 17:59               ` Steven Rostedt
2009-11-19 18:03                 ` Richard Guenther
2009-11-19 18:22                   ` Andrew Haley
2009-11-19 18:41                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-19 18:43                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-19 18:54                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-19 19:01                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-23  9:16                             ` Jakub Jelinek
2009-11-23  9:51                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-19 19:10                           ` David Daney
2009-11-19 19:28                             ` Steven Rostedt
2009-11-19 19:46                               ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2009-11-19 19:54                                 ` Kai Tietz
2009-11-19 20:05                                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-19 20:05                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-11-19 20:17                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2009-11-19 20:28                                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-19 20:25                                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-19 20:36                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-19 20:44                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2009-11-19 19:50                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-19 20:06                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-19 21:12                                   ` Jeff Law
2009-11-19 20:10                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-11-19 21:05                                 ` Jeff Law
2009-11-19 18:31                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-19 18:38                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-19 18:47                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-19 19:06                       ` Steven Rostedt
2009-11-19 19:50                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-20  9:57                         ` [PATCH] gcc mcount-nofp was " Andi Kleen
2009-11-20 12:34                           ` Steven Rostedt
2009-11-20 19:06                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-19 20:36                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-19 18:20             ` Andrew Haley
2009-11-19 18:33               ` Steven Rostedt
2009-11-19 18:36                 ` Andrew Pinski
2009-11-19 18:36                 ` Andrew Haley
2009-11-19 18:37                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-19 18:39               ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-20  5:23           ` [PATCH][GIT PULL][v2.6.32] tracing/x86: Add check to detect GCC messing with mcount prologue Steven Rostedt
2009-11-20  5:32             ` Steven Rostedt
2009-11-20 17:00             ` Steven Rostedt
2009-11-20 17:13               ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-20 19:35               ` Andrew Haley
2009-11-20 19:46                 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-11-20 19:49                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-22  9:38                 ` H.J. Lu
2009-11-22 17:20                   ` Andrew Haley
2009-11-22 23:30                     ` H.J. Lu
2009-11-24 14:43                       ` Andrew Haley
2009-11-24 14:55                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-24 15:06                           ` Jakub Jelinek
2009-11-24 15:32                             ` Andrew Haley
2009-11-24 15:36                               ` Jakub Jelinek
2009-11-24 15:46                                 ` Andrew Haley
2009-11-24 16:38                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-24 17:12                                     ` Andrew Haley
2009-11-24 17:30                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2009-11-25 20:05                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-24 19:55                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-25 15:29                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-25 15:44                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-25 15:53                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-25 16:25                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-25 16:44                                 ` Jakub Jelinek
2009-11-25 20:12                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-25 21:00                                     ` Andrew Haley
2009-11-22  9:05               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-20 10:30   ` [tip:timers/urgent] hrtimer: Fix /proc/timer_list regression tip-bot for Feng Tang
2009-11-20 14:19     ` Heiko Carstens
2009-11-19 20:48 BUG: GCC-4.4.x changes the function frame on some functions H. Peter Anvin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-11-19 21:14 H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-19 21:25 ` Jeff Law
2009-11-19 22:43   ` Steven Rostedt
2009-11-19 23:58     ` Jeff Law
2009-11-20  0:36       ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-20  0:59         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-20  1:27           ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-20  2:14             ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-20  1:29           ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-20  5:36           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-20 12:04         ` Andrew Haley
2009-11-20 12:22           ` Andrew Haley

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