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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Jason Baron <jbaron@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, tglx@linutronix.de,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, andi@firstfloor.org, roland@redhat.com,
	rth@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/6] jump label v3 - x86: Introduce generic jump patching without stop_machine
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:46:53 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091122014652.GA29217@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B0861D4.7030702@redhat.com>

* Masami Hiramatsu (mhiramat@redhat.com) wrote:
> Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > We should really do performance benchmarks comparing stop_machine() and
> > the int3-based approach rather than to try to come up with tricky
> > schemes. It's not a real problem until we prove there is indeed a
> > performance regression. I suspect that the combined effect of cache-line
> > bouncing, worker thread overhead and the IPI of stop_machine is probably
> > comparable to the two IPIs we propose for int3.
> 
> I assume that total latency of XMC is almost same on normal-size SMP.
> However,
> - stop_machine() can't support NMI/SMI.
> - stop_machine() stops all other processors while XMC.

I would also add that stop_machine() increases the system interrupt
latency of an amount O(num_online_cpus()), which I'd like to avoid given
the 90- to 128-core machines heading our way pretty quickly.

> 
> Anyway, int3-based approach still needs to be ensured its safeness
> by processor architects. So, until that, stop_machine() approach
> also useful for some cases.

True. This makes me think: If performance happens to be a problem, we
could do batched jump instruction modification. Using an hash table to
contain the pointers would allow us to only perform a single pair of IPI
for a whole bunch of instruction modifications.

Mathieu

> 
> Thank you,
 

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
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  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-22  1:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-18 22:43 [RFC PATCH 0/6] jump label v3 Jason Baron
2009-11-18 22:43 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] jump label v3 - kprobes/x86: Cleanup RELATIVEJUMP_INSTRUCTION to RELATIVEJUMP_OPCODE Jason Baron
2009-11-18 22:43 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] jump label v3 - x86: Introduce generic jump patching without stop_machine Jason Baron
2009-11-19  0:28   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-11-19  0:58     ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-19  1:22       ` Steven Rostedt
2009-11-19  1:39         ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-19  1:57       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-11-19  4:16         ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-19 14:04     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-11-19 16:03       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-11-20  1:00         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-11-21 15:32           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-11-21  1:11     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-11-21 15:38       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-11-20 21:54   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-21  0:06     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-11-21  0:19       ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-21 16:21       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-11-21 21:55         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-11-22  1:46           ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2009-11-21 16:12     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-11-18 22:43 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] jump label v3 - move opcode defs Jason Baron
2009-11-18 22:43 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] jump label v3 - base patch Jason Baron
2009-11-18 23:38   ` [PATCH] notifier atomic call chain notrace Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-11-19  0:02     ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-19  3:59     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-11-19 16:48     ` Jason Baron
2009-11-18 22:43 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] jump label v3 - add module support Jason Baron
2009-11-18 22:43 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] jump label v3 - tracepoint support Jason Baron
2009-11-18 22:51 ` [RFC PATCH 0/6] jump label v3 H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-18 23:07   ` Roland McGrath
2009-11-18 23:18     ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-19  3:54 ` Roland McGrath
2009-11-19 21:55   ` Jason Baron

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