From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752861AbZK3P33 (ORCPT ); Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:29:29 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752348AbZK3P31 (ORCPT ); Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:29:27 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:41288 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752230AbZK3P31 (ORCPT ); Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:29:27 -0500 Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:29:10 -0500 From: "Frank Ch. Eigler" To: Ingo Molnar Cc: Peter Zijlstra , Srikar Dronamraju , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, utrace-devel , Roland McGrath , Jim Keniston , Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH] In-kernel gdbstub based on utrace Infrastructure. Message-ID: <20091130152910.GB10331@redhat.com> References: <20091130120345.GA18879@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <1259582952.20516.209.camel@laptop> <20091130123257.GB18879@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <1259584907.20516.246.camel@laptop> <20091130131928.GC18879@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <1259588232.20516.307.camel@laptop> <20091130150314.GA10331@redhat.com> <20091130151650.GA24316@elte.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091130151650.GA24316@elte.hu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 04:16:50PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > [...] > kgdb exists here and today in the kernel and you cannot just build a > facility that doesnt replace it and doesnt integrate well with it. Surely you don't mean that: every non-kgdb facility in the kernel meets that definition, even all debugging-related facilities such as perf and ftrace. > So if a unified user/kernel model for debugging is a 'long term' > feature in your view then perhaps this framework (which introduces > _extensive_ hooks all around the kernel) is not designed/approached > in the right way and should not be merged in this form. Which "this framework" are you talking about? Please clarify what exactly you're trying to say. - FChE