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From: Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>
To: Jani Nikula <ext-jani.1.nikula@nokia.com>
Cc: "dbrownell@users.sourceforge.net"
	<dbrownell@users.sourceforge.net>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"dsilvers@simtec.co.uk" <dsilvers@simtec.co.uk>,
	"ben@simtec.co.uk" <ben@simtec.co.uk>,
	"Bityutskiy Artem (Nokia-D/Helsinki)"
	<Artem.Bityutskiy@nokia.com>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] gpiolib: add support for having symlinks under gpio class directory
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 06:49:20 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091210144920.GA27237@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1260455537.25352.1762.camel@jani-desktop>

On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 04:32:17PM +0200, Jani Nikula wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 03:48 +0100, ext Greg KH wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 03:49:03PM +0200, Jani Nikula wrote:
> > > Extend the functionality of gpio_export_link() to allow exported GPIOs
> > > to have names using sysfs links under /sys/class/gpio.
> > 
> > No, please don't create symlinks under a class, that is not something
> > that any userspace tool is expecting.
> > 
> > I don't understand what you are trying to do here, why do you need a
> > symlink?  What is wrong with the original device names?
> 
> The problem
> ~~~~~~~~~~~
> 
> GPIOs can be exported to gpiolib sysfs at /sys/class/gpio/ like this:
> 
> # ls -l /sys/class/gpio/
> --w-------    1 root     0            4096 Jan  1 00:00 export
> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     0               0 Jan  1 00:00 gpio25 -> ../../devices/virtual/gpio/gpio25
> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     0               0 Jan  1 00:00 gpio38 -> ../../devices/virtual/gpio/gpio38
> ...
> 
> The GPIO lines may and do change from board revision to another. For
> example a power button's GPIO number might be 25 in board rev 1.0 but 66
> in board rev 1.1.
> 
> We want to assign symbolic names to GPIO lines and hide the numbering
> changes from userspace, because it is very painful to amend userspace
> for every board revision.

True, just like it is hard to change the kernel for every type of
configuration as well :)

This is the problem that udev solves, from usersapce, but you don't have
device nodes for it to manage, right?

> Existing solution
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 
> gpio_export_link() can be used to create symlinks from drivers' sysfs
> to gpiolib, but this obviously requires a driver. For example:
> 
> # ls -l /sys/devices/platform/foo/
> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     0               0 Jan  2 00:31 power_button -> ../../virtual/gpio/gpio25
> ...
> 
> This doesn't really work for GPIO lines not associated with any driver.

Understood

> How we addressed the problem
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 
> We simply decided to extend gpio_export_link(). When it is called
> with 'dev == NULL' (no driver), it creates an additional symlink
> in /sys/class/gpio/
> 
> # ls -l /sys/class/gpio/
> --w-------    1 root     0            4096 Jan  1 00:00 export
> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     0               0 Jan  1 00:00 power_button -> ../../devices/virtual/gpio/gpio25
> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     0               0 Jan  1 00:00 gpio25 -> ../../devices/virtual/gpio/gpio25
> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     0               0 Jan  1 00:00 gpio38 -> ../../devices/virtual/gpio/gpio38
> ...
> 
> This is exactly what our patchset allows to do.
> 
> An alternative would be a dummy driver just to create a home in sysfs
> for the standalone GPIOs and use the gpio_export_link() to make the
> links there.
> 
> Any other suggestions?

This type of "policy" should be better off done in userspace whereever
possible.  Can't you just have a udev rule to create symlinks from
somewhere else, into /sys/class/gpio/ that show this type of information
that you are wanting to have?

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-10 14:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-09 13:49 [PATCH 0/3] gpiolib: gpio naming in sysfs Jani Nikula
2009-12-09 13:49 ` [PATCH 1/3] device class: add symlink creation helpers Jani Nikula
2009-12-10  2:49   ` Greg KH
2009-12-09 13:49 ` [PATCH 2/3] gpiolib: add support for having symlinks under gpio class directory Jani Nikula
2009-12-10  2:48   ` Greg KH
2009-12-10 14:32     ` Jani Nikula
2009-12-10 14:49       ` Greg KH [this message]
2009-12-10 15:17         ` Kay Sievers
2009-12-10 15:24           ` Greg KH
2009-12-11  8:41         ` Jani Nikula
2009-12-11 15:38           ` Greg KH
2009-12-11  3:35       ` David Brownell
2009-12-09 13:49 ` [PATCH 3/3] gpiolib: use chip->names for symlinks, always use gpioN for device names Jani Nikula
2009-12-11  3:39   ` David Brownell
2009-12-11  3:47     ` Greg KH
2009-12-11  4:13       ` David Brownell
2009-12-11  4:38         ` Greg KH
2009-12-11  5:13           ` David Brownell
2009-12-11  5:18             ` Greg KH
2009-12-11  5:36           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-12-11  5:46             ` Greg KH
2009-12-11  7:51               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-12-11 15:36                 ` Greg KH
2009-12-11 13:23             ` [PATCH]crypto: Fix complain about lack test for internal used algorithm Youquan,Song
2009-12-11  6:04               ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-19  9:40                 ` Youquan,Song
2009-12-19  2:29                   ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-19 15:07                     ` Youquan,Song
2009-12-19  9:42                       ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-21 10:38                         ` [Resend PATCH]crypto: " Youquan,Song
2009-12-23 11:59                           ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-11  5:22         ` [PATCH 3/3] gpiolib: use chip->names for symlinks, always use gpioN for device names Ben Nizette
2009-12-11  5:12       ` Ben Nizette
2009-12-14 11:16         ` Jani Nikula
2009-12-14 22:27           ` Ben Nizette
2009-12-10  0:02 ` [PATCH 0/3] gpiolib: gpio naming in sysfs Andrew Morton

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