From: Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>
To: Jani Nikula <ext-jani.1.nikula@nokia.com>
Cc: "dbrownell@users.sourceforge.net"
<dbrownell@users.sourceforge.net>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"dsilvers@simtec.co.uk" <dsilvers@simtec.co.uk>,
"ben@simtec.co.uk" <ben@simtec.co.uk>,
"Bityutskiy Artem (Nokia-D/Helsinki)"
<Artem.Bityutskiy@nokia.com>,
"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] gpiolib: add support for having symlinks under gpio class directory
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 06:49:20 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091210144920.GA27237@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1260455537.25352.1762.camel@jani-desktop>
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 04:32:17PM +0200, Jani Nikula wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 03:48 +0100, ext Greg KH wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 03:49:03PM +0200, Jani Nikula wrote:
> > > Extend the functionality of gpio_export_link() to allow exported GPIOs
> > > to have names using sysfs links under /sys/class/gpio.
> >
> > No, please don't create symlinks under a class, that is not something
> > that any userspace tool is expecting.
> >
> > I don't understand what you are trying to do here, why do you need a
> > symlink? What is wrong with the original device names?
>
> The problem
> ~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> GPIOs can be exported to gpiolib sysfs at /sys/class/gpio/ like this:
>
> # ls -l /sys/class/gpio/
> --w------- 1 root 0 4096 Jan 1 00:00 export
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 0 0 Jan 1 00:00 gpio25 -> ../../devices/virtual/gpio/gpio25
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 0 0 Jan 1 00:00 gpio38 -> ../../devices/virtual/gpio/gpio38
> ...
>
> The GPIO lines may and do change from board revision to another. For
> example a power button's GPIO number might be 25 in board rev 1.0 but 66
> in board rev 1.1.
>
> We want to assign symbolic names to GPIO lines and hide the numbering
> changes from userspace, because it is very painful to amend userspace
> for every board revision.
True, just like it is hard to change the kernel for every type of
configuration as well :)
This is the problem that udev solves, from usersapce, but you don't have
device nodes for it to manage, right?
> Existing solution
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> gpio_export_link() can be used to create symlinks from drivers' sysfs
> to gpiolib, but this obviously requires a driver. For example:
>
> # ls -l /sys/devices/platform/foo/
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 0 0 Jan 2 00:31 power_button -> ../../virtual/gpio/gpio25
> ...
>
> This doesn't really work for GPIO lines not associated with any driver.
Understood
> How we addressed the problem
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> We simply decided to extend gpio_export_link(). When it is called
> with 'dev == NULL' (no driver), it creates an additional symlink
> in /sys/class/gpio/
>
> # ls -l /sys/class/gpio/
> --w------- 1 root 0 4096 Jan 1 00:00 export
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 0 0 Jan 1 00:00 power_button -> ../../devices/virtual/gpio/gpio25
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 0 0 Jan 1 00:00 gpio25 -> ../../devices/virtual/gpio/gpio25
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 0 0 Jan 1 00:00 gpio38 -> ../../devices/virtual/gpio/gpio38
> ...
>
> This is exactly what our patchset allows to do.
>
> An alternative would be a dummy driver just to create a home in sysfs
> for the standalone GPIOs and use the gpio_export_link() to make the
> links there.
>
> Any other suggestions?
This type of "policy" should be better off done in userspace whereever
possible. Can't you just have a udev rule to create symlinks from
somewhere else, into /sys/class/gpio/ that show this type of information
that you are wanting to have?
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-10 14:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-09 13:49 [PATCH 0/3] gpiolib: gpio naming in sysfs Jani Nikula
2009-12-09 13:49 ` [PATCH 1/3] device class: add symlink creation helpers Jani Nikula
2009-12-10 2:49 ` Greg KH
2009-12-09 13:49 ` [PATCH 2/3] gpiolib: add support for having symlinks under gpio class directory Jani Nikula
2009-12-10 2:48 ` Greg KH
2009-12-10 14:32 ` Jani Nikula
2009-12-10 14:49 ` Greg KH [this message]
2009-12-10 15:17 ` Kay Sievers
2009-12-10 15:24 ` Greg KH
2009-12-11 8:41 ` Jani Nikula
2009-12-11 15:38 ` Greg KH
2009-12-11 3:35 ` David Brownell
2009-12-09 13:49 ` [PATCH 3/3] gpiolib: use chip->names for symlinks, always use gpioN for device names Jani Nikula
2009-12-11 3:39 ` David Brownell
2009-12-11 3:47 ` Greg KH
2009-12-11 4:13 ` David Brownell
2009-12-11 4:38 ` Greg KH
2009-12-11 5:13 ` David Brownell
2009-12-11 5:18 ` Greg KH
2009-12-11 5:36 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-12-11 5:46 ` Greg KH
2009-12-11 7:51 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-12-11 15:36 ` Greg KH
2009-12-11 13:23 ` [PATCH]crypto: Fix complain about lack test for internal used algorithm Youquan,Song
2009-12-11 6:04 ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-19 9:40 ` Youquan,Song
2009-12-19 2:29 ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-19 15:07 ` Youquan,Song
2009-12-19 9:42 ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-21 10:38 ` [Resend PATCH]crypto: " Youquan,Song
2009-12-23 11:59 ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-11 5:22 ` [PATCH 3/3] gpiolib: use chip->names for symlinks, always use gpioN for device names Ben Nizette
2009-12-11 5:12 ` Ben Nizette
2009-12-14 11:16 ` Jani Nikula
2009-12-14 22:27 ` Ben Nizette
2009-12-10 0:02 ` [PATCH 0/3] gpiolib: gpio naming in sysfs Andrew Morton
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