From: "Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Tim Bird <tim.bird@am.sony.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
linux kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] ftrace - add function_duration tracer
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:04:12 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091210180412.GB30999@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091210175737.GB5256@elte.hu>
Hi -
> > FWIW, those who want to collect such measurements today can do so with
> > a few lines of systemtap script for each of the above.
>
> Well, i dont think stap can do workload instrumentation. It can do
> system-wide (and user local / task local) - but can it do per task
> hierarchies?
It can track the evolution of task hierarchies by listening to process
forking events, and filter other kernel/user events according to
then-current hierarchy data. One primitive implementation of this is
in the target_set.stp tapset, but it's easy to script up other
policies.
> Also, i dont think stap supports proper separation of per workload
> measurements either. I.e. can you write a script that will work properly
> even if multiple monitoring tools are running, each trying to measure
> latencies?
Sure, always has. You can run many scripts concurrently, each with its
own internal state. (Overheads accumulate, sadly & naturally.)
> Also, i personally find built-in kernel functionality more trustable
> than dynamically built stap kernel modules that get inserted.
I understand. In the absence of a suitable bytecode engine in the
kernel, this was the only practical way to do everything we needed.
- FChE
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-10 18:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-09 22:40 [PATCH 2/4] ftrace - add function_duration tracer Tim Bird
2009-12-10 7:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-10 12:03 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-12-10 14:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-10 14:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-10 15:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-10 16:22 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-10 16:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-10 17:16 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-10 17:28 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-12-10 17:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-10 18:04 ` Frank Ch. Eigler [this message]
2009-12-10 18:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-10 18:50 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-12-10 20:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-10 21:30 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-12-10 14:29 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-10 16:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-10 20:23 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-12-10 21:55 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-10 22:40 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-12-10 21:13 ` Tim Bird
2009-12-10 22:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-10 22:26 ` Tim Bird
2009-12-10 22:36 ` Tim Bird
2009-12-10 23:47 ` Steven Rostedt
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