From: Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>
To: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
Cc: Jani Nikula <ext-jani.1.nikula@nokia.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dsilvers@simtec.co.uk,
ben@simtec.co.uk, Artem.Bityutskiy@nokia.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] gpiolib: use chip->names for symlinks, always use gpioN for device names
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:18:02 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091211051802.GA18914@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200912102113.06973.david-b@pacbell.net>
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 09:13:06PM -0800, David Brownell wrote:
> On Thursday 10 December 2009, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 08:13:58PM -0800, David Brownell wrote:
> > > On Thursday 10 December 2009, Greg KH wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > IMO a "good" solution in this space needs to accept that
> > > > > those names are not going to be globally unique ... but
> > > > > that they'll be unique within some context, of necessity.
> > > > >
> > > > > If Greg doesn't want to see those names under classes,
> > > > > so be it ... but where should they then appear?
> > > >
> > > > As a sysfs file within the device directory called 'name'? ?Then just
> > > > grep through the tree to find the right device, that also handles
> > > > duplicates just fine, right?
> > >
> > > I want a concrete example. Those chip->names things don't
> > > seem helpful to me though...
> > >
> > > ...
> >
> > Um, I really don't know, as I don't know the GPIO subsystem, nor why you
> > all have this problem in the first place :)
>
> Maybe Jani can provide a more concrete example.
>
>
> > I also find it funny that you think changing the kernel is easier than
> > userspace, that's a strange situation.
>
> I don't recall saying that. :)
>
> It's a case of kernel having access to system data that's not
> otherwise exported to userspace. It knows how the various bits
> of hardware fit together ... and in this case wants to export
> associations between some GPIOs and some other hardware. Given
> that, userspace can pick things up.
>
>
> > Anyway, I assumed that you already have a struct device for the GPIO
> > devices, right? Put it in there was what I was thinking, but as I don't
> > understand your current layout, I really don't know.
>
> There are gpio_chip devices, for a set of GPIOs. But not for
> the individual GPIOs.
>
>
> > > I confess I'd still think a symlink from that directory
> > > to the real GPIO would be easier to work with...
> >
> > No, don't do that, no symlinks from a class please.
>
> I didn't catch a reason for that request... could you
> explain that?
It only causes confusion and you would be the only subsystem needing
such a strange thing, causing me to believe something is wrong with the
request.
Also see Kay's response, it was better :)
thanks,
greg k-h
>
> - Dave
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-11 5:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-09 13:49 [PATCH 0/3] gpiolib: gpio naming in sysfs Jani Nikula
2009-12-09 13:49 ` [PATCH 1/3] device class: add symlink creation helpers Jani Nikula
2009-12-10 2:49 ` Greg KH
2009-12-09 13:49 ` [PATCH 2/3] gpiolib: add support for having symlinks under gpio class directory Jani Nikula
2009-12-10 2:48 ` Greg KH
2009-12-10 14:32 ` Jani Nikula
2009-12-10 14:49 ` Greg KH
2009-12-10 15:17 ` Kay Sievers
2009-12-10 15:24 ` Greg KH
2009-12-11 8:41 ` Jani Nikula
2009-12-11 15:38 ` Greg KH
2009-12-11 3:35 ` David Brownell
2009-12-09 13:49 ` [PATCH 3/3] gpiolib: use chip->names for symlinks, always use gpioN for device names Jani Nikula
2009-12-11 3:39 ` David Brownell
2009-12-11 3:47 ` Greg KH
2009-12-11 4:13 ` David Brownell
2009-12-11 4:38 ` Greg KH
2009-12-11 5:13 ` David Brownell
2009-12-11 5:18 ` Greg KH [this message]
2009-12-11 5:36 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-12-11 5:46 ` Greg KH
2009-12-11 7:51 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-12-11 15:36 ` Greg KH
2009-12-11 13:23 ` [PATCH]crypto: Fix complain about lack test for internal used algorithm Youquan,Song
2009-12-11 6:04 ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-19 9:40 ` Youquan,Song
2009-12-19 2:29 ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-19 15:07 ` Youquan,Song
2009-12-19 9:42 ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-21 10:38 ` [Resend PATCH]crypto: " Youquan,Song
2009-12-23 11:59 ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-11 5:22 ` [PATCH 3/3] gpiolib: use chip->names for symlinks, always use gpioN for device names Ben Nizette
2009-12-11 5:12 ` Ben Nizette
2009-12-14 11:16 ` Jani Nikula
2009-12-14 22:27 ` Ben Nizette
2009-12-10 0:02 ` [PATCH 0/3] gpiolib: gpio naming in sysfs Andrew Morton
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