public inbox for linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>
To: Artem Bityutskiy <Artem.Bityutskiy@nokia.com>
Cc: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>,
	Jani Nikula <ext-jani.1.nikula@nokia.com>,
	dbrownell@users.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	dsilvers@simtec.co.uk, ben@simtec.co.uk,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] gpiolib: use chip->names for symlinks, always use gpioN for device names
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:46:14 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091211054614.GA23644@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1260509771.12346.138.camel@localhost>

On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 07:36:11AM +0200, Artem Bityutskiy wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 20:38 -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 08:13:58PM -0800, David Brownell wrote:
> > > On Thursday 10 December 2009, Greg KH wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > IMO a "good" solution in this space needs to accept that
> > > > > those names are not going to be globally unique ... but
> > > > > that they'll be unique within some context, of necessity.
> > > > > 
> > > > > If Greg doesn't want to see those names under classes,
> > > > > so be it ... but where should they then appear?
> > > > 
> > > > As a sysfs file within the device directory called 'name'? ?Then just
> > > > grep through the tree to find the right device, that also handles
> > > > duplicates just fine, right?
> > > 
> > > I want a concrete example.  Those chip->names things don't
> > > seem helpful to me though...
> > > 
> > > If for example I were building a JTAG adapter on Linux, it
> > > might consist of a spidev node (chardev) plus a handful of
> > > GPIOs.  So "the device directory" would be the sysfs home
> > > of that spidev node (or some variant)?  And inside that
> > > directory would be files named after various signals that
> > > are used as GPIOs ... maybe SRST, TRST, and DETECT to start
> > > with?  Holding some cookie that gets mapped to those GPIO's
> > > sysfs entries?
> > 
> > Um, I really don't know, as I don't know the GPIO subsystem, nor why you
> > all have this problem in the first place :)
> > 
> > I also find it funny that you think changing the kernel is easier than
> > userspace, that's a strange situation.
> 
> User-space does not know which GPIO number is what. E.g., is the
> "power_button" GPIO number 6 or 99? It just does not have this
> information.
> 
> Kernel knows this, either because it was compiled for a specific board
> revision, or it got this information from the bootloader.
> 
> And the whole idea is to make kernel export this name. Currently, the
> kernel exports only the numbers in sysfs, which is not enough.

Then export a file with the name somewhere as well.  Why not put that in
the directory you were going to point the symlink at?

> And because gpiolib is designed as it is designed, we found that having
> additional link in /sys/class/gpio is the nicest solution from gpiolib's
> POW. It just fits naturally to the existing design.
> 
> And no, we do not have per-gpio struct device, so we cannot add a new
> "name" attribute there. We need to either persuade you to accept our
> solution or make you take closer look at gpoiolib subsystem and suggest
> us the right way to go :-)

If you don't have a struct device, then what are you going to generate a
symlink to?

And sorry, I'm swamped with other work right now, I honestly have no
time to dig into the gpio subsystem.

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-11  5:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-09 13:49 [PATCH 0/3] gpiolib: gpio naming in sysfs Jani Nikula
2009-12-09 13:49 ` [PATCH 1/3] device class: add symlink creation helpers Jani Nikula
2009-12-10  2:49   ` Greg KH
2009-12-09 13:49 ` [PATCH 2/3] gpiolib: add support for having symlinks under gpio class directory Jani Nikula
2009-12-10  2:48   ` Greg KH
2009-12-10 14:32     ` Jani Nikula
2009-12-10 14:49       ` Greg KH
2009-12-10 15:17         ` Kay Sievers
2009-12-10 15:24           ` Greg KH
2009-12-11  8:41         ` Jani Nikula
2009-12-11 15:38           ` Greg KH
2009-12-11  3:35       ` David Brownell
2009-12-09 13:49 ` [PATCH 3/3] gpiolib: use chip->names for symlinks, always use gpioN for device names Jani Nikula
2009-12-11  3:39   ` David Brownell
2009-12-11  3:47     ` Greg KH
2009-12-11  4:13       ` David Brownell
2009-12-11  4:38         ` Greg KH
2009-12-11  5:13           ` David Brownell
2009-12-11  5:18             ` Greg KH
2009-12-11  5:36           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-12-11  5:46             ` Greg KH [this message]
2009-12-11  7:51               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-12-11 15:36                 ` Greg KH
2009-12-11 13:23             ` [PATCH]crypto: Fix complain about lack test for internal used algorithm Youquan,Song
2009-12-11  6:04               ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-19  9:40                 ` Youquan,Song
2009-12-19  2:29                   ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-19 15:07                     ` Youquan,Song
2009-12-19  9:42                       ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-21 10:38                         ` [Resend PATCH]crypto: " Youquan,Song
2009-12-23 11:59                           ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-11  5:22         ` [PATCH 3/3] gpiolib: use chip->names for symlinks, always use gpioN for device names Ben Nizette
2009-12-11  5:12       ` Ben Nizette
2009-12-14 11:16         ` Jani Nikula
2009-12-14 22:27           ` Ben Nizette
2009-12-10  0:02 ` [PATCH 0/3] gpiolib: gpio naming in sysfs Andrew Morton

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20091211054614.GA23644@suse.de \
    --to=gregkh@suse.de \
    --cc=Artem.Bityutskiy@nokia.com \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=ben@simtec.co.uk \
    --cc=david-b@pacbell.net \
    --cc=dbrownell@users.sourceforge.net \
    --cc=dsilvers@simtec.co.uk \
    --cc=ext-jani.1.nikula@nokia.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox