From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>, Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [GIT PATCH] TTY patches for 2.6.33-git
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:04:13 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091213190410.GA7297@nowhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091213181726.GA14558@elte.hu>
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 07:17:26PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 13 Dec 2009, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > >
> > > In the last ~4.5 years:
> > >
> > > earth4:~/tip> git checkout v2.6.12
> > > Date: Fri Jun 17 12:48:29 2005 -0700
> > > earth4:~/tip> git grep -w unlock_kernel | wc -l
> > > 713
> > >
> > > earth4:~/tip> git checkout linus
> > > Date: Fri Dec 11 20:58:20 2009 -0800
> > > earth4:~/tip> git grep -w unlock_kernel | wc -l
> > > 841
> >
> > Git hint of the day: you don't need to check out a kernel to do "git
> > grep".
> >
> > Do this:
> >
> > git grep -w unlock_kernel v2.6.12 | wc
> >
> > and it will JustWork(tm).
>
> /me adds it to the metal toolbox
>
> > > Also, a lot of BKL use was hidden before, and due to the BKL removal
> > > activities (by Thomas, Frederic, Jon, Alan and others) the remaining BKL using
> > > sites are a lot more well defined, a lot more isolated and thus a lot more
> > > removable than ever before.
> >
> > That's the main thing. We've been pushing them down a lot.
> >
> > We still have a few annoying core ones, though. I hate the execve() and file
> > locking ones.
>
> When we did the BKL-as-a-mutex trick and let lockdep loose on it, three areas
> were particularly tricky: tty, reiser3 and NFS. tty and reiserfs should be ok
> now, but i havent seen much activity on the NFS front.
>
> Ingo
Nfs was a problem in the BKL-as-a-mutex tree because it is acquired
recursively and then locked up. And I suspect this recursion happens
only on mount time because vfs acquires it too there.
But looking at it more closely, it doesn't look that dramatic at
a first glance.
git-grep unlock_kernel fs/nfs
fs/nfs/callback.c: unlock_kernel();
fs/nfs/callback.c: unlock_kernel();
In nfs4_callback_svc() it embraces the socket
listening/processing callback thread.
svc_recv() might sleep so the bkl can be
lost in the middle.
And then svc_process().
This doesn't seem to protect anything there.
In nfs4_callback_svc() it's about the same thing, plus
a list manipulation but protected by a spinlock.
fs/nfs/delegation.c: unlock_kernel();
fs/nfs/delegation.c: unlock_kernel();
fs/nfs/nfs4state.c: unlock_kernel();
fs/nfs/nfs4state.c: unlock_kernel();
In the above cases we have the following comment:
/* Protect inode->i_flock using the BKL */
And really it doesn't seem to protect anything else,
fortunately it is acquired in a short path.
fs/nfs/super.c: unlock_kernel();
fs/nfs/super.c: unlock_kernel();
Protect the mount/unmount path, a bit trickier there.
But really that looks way much easier to fix than it was
with reiserfs.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-13 19:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-11 23:28 [GIT PATCH] TTY patches for 2.6.33-git Greg KH
2009-12-11 23:27 ` [PATCH 01/58] jsm: IRQ handlers doesn't need to have IRQ_DISABLED enabled Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:27 ` [PATCH 02/58] jsm: Rewriting a bad log message Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:27 ` [PATCH 03/58] jsm: remove the ch_custom_speed field Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:27 ` [PATCH 04/58] jsm: removing ch_old_baud field Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:27 ` [PATCH 05/58] jsm: Remove ch_cpstime field Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:27 ` [PATCH 06/58] jsm: Removing unused jsm_channel->ch_wopen field Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:27 ` [PATCH 07/58] jsm: removing the field jsm_board->intr_count Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:27 ` [PATCH 08/58] jsm: adding EEH handlers Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:27 ` [PATCH 09/58] tty: const: constify remaining tty_operations Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:27 ` [PATCH 10/58] tty: esp: remove broken driver Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:27 ` [PATCH 11/58] tty: istallion: Kill off the BKL ioctl Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:27 ` [PATCH 12/58] tty: stallion: kill " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:27 ` [PATCH 13/58] tty_port: add "tty_port_open" helper Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:27 ` [PATCH 14/58] tty_port: coding style cleaning pass Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:27 ` [PATCH 15/58] usb_serial: Use the shutdown() operation Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 16/58] usb_serial: Kill port mutex Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 17/58] opticon: Fix resume logic Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 18/58] serial: fix NULL pointer dereference Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 19/58] serial: cascade needless conditionals Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 20/58] serial, 8250: calculate irqflags bitmask before loop Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 21/58] Serial: pxa: work around Errata #75 Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 22/58] tty: docs: serial/tty, add to ldisc methods Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 23/58] Serial: Do not read IIR in serial8250_start_tx when UART_BUG_TXEN Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 24/58] devpts_get_tty() should validate inode Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 25/58] tty_port: Move hupcl handling Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 26/58] sdio_uart: use tty_port Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 27/58] sdio_uart: Fix oops caused by the previous changeset Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 28/58] sdio_uart: refcount the tty objects Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 29/58] sdio_uart: Move the open lock Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 30/58] tty: sdio_uart: Switch to the open/close helpers Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 31/58] tty: sdio_uart: Fix termios handling Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 32/58] tty: sdio_uart: Style fixes Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 33/58] tty: sdio_uart: add modem functionality Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 34/58] tty: sdio_uart: Fix the locking on "func" for new code Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 35/58] tty: tty_port: Change the buffer allocator locking Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 36/58] tty: riscom8: switch to the tty_port_open API Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 37/58] tty: tty_port: Add IO_ERROR bit handling Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 38/58] tty: tty_port: Move the IO_ERROR clear Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 39/58] tty: stallion: Convert to the tty_port_open/close methods Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 40/58] tty: istallion: tty port open/close methods Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 41/58] tty: tty_port: Add a kref object to the tty port Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 42/58] tty: isicom: switch to the new tty_port_open helper Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 43/58] tty: isicom: sort out the board init logic Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 44/58] tty: mxser: use the tty_port_open method Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 45/58] tty: mxser: Use the new locking rules to fix setserial properly Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 46/58] tty: isicom: fix deadlock on shutdown Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 47/58] tty: moxa: Use more tty_port ops Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 48/58] tty: moxa: rework the locking a bit Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 49/58] tty: moxa: Locking clean up Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 50/58] tty: moxa: Kill off the throttle method Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 51/58] tty: moxa: Fix modem op locking Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 52/58] tty: moxa: Kill the use of lock_kernel Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 53/58] tty: moxa: split open lock Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 54/58] tty: push the BKL down into the handlers a bit Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 55/58] tty: Push the lock down further into the ldisc code Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 56/58] tty: Push the bkl down a bit in the hangup code Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 57/58] tty: Move the leader test in disassociate Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-11 23:28 ` [PATCH 58/58] tty: split the lock up a bit further Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-12-12 8:46 ` [GIT PATCH] TTY patches for 2.6.33-git Ingo Molnar
2009-12-12 9:39 ` Andrew Morton
2009-12-12 10:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-12 10:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-12 10:41 ` Andrew Morton
2009-12-12 10:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-12 10:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-12 10:36 ` Andrew Morton
2009-12-12 17:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-12 17:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-12 21:42 ` Alan Cox
2009-12-12 21:48 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-12 22:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-12 22:31 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-12 22:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-12 22:33 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-12 23:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-13 6:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-13 11:36 ` Alan Cox
2009-12-13 12:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-13 17:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-13 18:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-13 18:33 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-12-13 19:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-13 19:17 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-12-13 19:04 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2009-12-13 19:09 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-12-13 19:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-13 20:04 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-12-13 19:20 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-12-13 17:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-12-13 19:16 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-12-14 5:30 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-12-14 10:39 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-12-14 16:02 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-12-16 9:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-12-12 11:02 ` Alan Cox
2009-12-12 22:34 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-12 10:42 ` Alan Cox
2009-12-12 10:42 ` Ingo Molnar
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2010-03-02 23:09 Greg KH
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