From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 0/9] Fix various __task_cred related invalid RCU assumptions
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 06:16:07 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091214141607.GD7710@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1260785859.4165.136.camel@twins>
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:17:39AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 17:53 -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 07:56:17PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 21:34 -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ah -- I have a related lockdep question. Is there a primitive that says
> > > > whether or not the current task holds at least one lock of any type?
> > > > If so, I would like to make rcu_dereference() do at least a little crude
> > > > checking for this problem.
> > >
> > > Hmm, no, but that's not hard to do, however I actually implemented
> > > something like that for RCU a long while ago and that gives a metric TON
> > > of false positives due to things like the radix tree which are RCU-safe
> > > but are not required to be used with RCU.
> >
> > Understood -- my current guess is that there needs to be a way to tag
> > a variant of the rcu_dereference() API with the conditions that must be
> > met, for example, either in an rcu-sched read-side critical section or
> > holding a specific type of lock.
> >
> > This does make it a little harder to retroactively add checking to
> > existing calls to rcu_dereference(), but should allow a good balance
> > between false positives and false negatives going forward.
> >
> > Seem reasonable, or am I still missing something?
>
> The only concern is drowning in rcu_dereference() annotations. But I
> guess that is unavoidable.
So far, I haven't been able to think of anything better. :-/
> I think you can use lock_is_held(&rcu_lock_map), except you need to deal
> with the !debug_locks case, because lockdep stops once debug_locks
> becomes false, which means lock_is_held() will return rubbish.
OK, so I need to do something like the following, then?
debug_locks ? lock_is_held(&rcu_lock_map) : 1
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-14 14:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-10 0:52 [patch 0/9] Fix various __task_cred related invalid RCU assumptions Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-10 0:52 ` [patch 1/9] sys: Fix missing rcu protection for __task_cred() access Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-10 1:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-12-10 2:29 ` Tetsuo Handa
2009-12-10 2:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-12-10 14:29 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-10 14:44 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-11 13:45 ` David Howells
2009-12-11 13:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-10 14:20 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-10 14:38 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-10 15:08 ` [patch 1/9] sys: Fix missing rcu protection for __task_cred()access Tetsuo Handa
2009-12-10 21:17 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-11 3:25 ` Tetsuo Handa
2010-02-08 12:30 ` [PATCH] Update comment on find_task_by_pid_ns Tetsuo Handa
2010-02-08 13:21 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-02-08 17:07 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-02-08 17:16 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-02-08 21:42 ` Tetsuo Handa
2010-02-09 22:08 ` Andrew Morton
2010-02-10 16:30 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-02-10 17:57 ` Andrew Morton
2010-02-10 18:39 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-02-10 20:18 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-02-10 20:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-02-11 1:21 ` Tetsuo Handa
2010-02-11 12:04 ` [PATCH] sys: Fix missing rcu protection for sys_getpriority Tetsuo Handa
2010-02-12 14:22 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-12-10 22:09 ` [tip:core/urgent] sys: Fix missing rcu protection for __task_cred() access tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-11 13:41 ` [patch 1/9] " David Howells
2009-12-10 0:52 ` [patch 2/9] fs: Add missing rcu protection for __task_cred() in sys_ioprio_get Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-11 13:46 ` David Howells
2009-12-10 0:53 ` [patch 3/9] proc: Add missing rcu protection for __task_cred() in task_sig() Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-11 13:46 ` David Howells
2009-12-10 0:53 ` [patch 4/9] oom: Add missing rcu protection of __task_cred() in dump_tasks Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-10 1:57 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-11 13:49 ` David Howells
2009-12-11 13:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-10 0:53 ` [patch 5/9] security: Use get_task_cred() in keyctl_session_to_parent() Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-10 2:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-12-11 13:52 ` David Howells
2009-12-10 0:53 ` [patch 6/9] signal: Fix racy access to __task_cred in kill_pid_info_as_uid() Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-10 15:11 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-10 22:09 ` [tip:core/urgent] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-11 13:53 ` [patch 6/9] " David Howells
2009-12-10 0:53 ` [patch 7/9] signals: Fix more rcu assumptions Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-10 14:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-10 14:45 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-11 13:59 ` David Howells
2009-12-10 22:09 ` [tip:core/urgent] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-10 0:53 ` [patch 8/9] Documentation: Fix invalid " Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-10 23:55 ` Vegard Nossum
2009-12-11 14:00 ` David Howells
2009-12-11 16:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-11 16:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-12-11 18:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-11 21:28 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-12-11 22:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-12-10 0:53 ` [patch 9/9] security: Fix invalid rcu assumptions in comments Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-11 14:01 ` David Howells
2009-12-10 2:28 ` [patch 0/9] Fix various __task_cred related invalid RCU assumptions Paul E. McKenney
2009-12-10 3:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-10 5:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-10 5:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-12-13 18:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-14 1:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-12-14 10:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-14 14:16 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2009-12-14 14:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-15 1:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-12-11 13:39 ` David Howells
2009-12-11 16:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
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