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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] perf_event: introduce 'perf timer' to analyze timer's behavior
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 08:32:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091216073248.GA32713@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B283596.2010801@cn.fujitsu.com>


* Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@cn.fujitsu.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 07:17:03PM +0800, Xiao Guangrong wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> We introduce 'perf timer' in this patchset, it can analyze timer
> >> latency and timer function handle time, the usage and result is
> >> like below:
> >>
> >> # perf timer record
> >> # perf timer lat --print-lat --print-handle
> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> |   Timer            |   TYPE   |   Avg-latency  | Max-latency  |  Max-latency-at-TS |Max-lat-at-Task |
> >> |0xf7ad1f5c          |hrtimer   |996068.500    ns|1607650     ns|10270128658526      |init            |
> >> |0xf7903f04          |timer     |0.625         HZ|2           HZ|10270344082394      |swapper         |
> >> |0xf787a05c          |hrtimer   |200239.500    ns|359929      ns|10269316024808      |main            |
> >> |main      :[   PROF]|itimer    |0.000         HZ|0           HZ|10237021270557      |main            |
> >> |main      :[VIRTUAL]|itimer    |0.000         HZ|0           HZ|10257314773501      |main            |
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Cool! This is really a good work and a good idea.
> > 
> > Just have some neats in mind. hrtimers and timers don't have the same latency and
> > granularity requirements.
> > 
> > As you show it, timers have an HZ granularity and hrtimers are about nanoseconds,
> > and mixing them up in the same array of latency report is too messy.
> > They don't have the same granularity/latency scope so they should
> > be reported separately.
> > 
> 
> Yeah, it has different unit and looks ugly :-(
> 
> but, the problem is we can't get HZ in userspace now, i'll export HZ by proc 
> or other way and rectify 'perf timer' output in my next work

We could export HZ as part of the ftrace event format file, in 
/debug/tracing/events/timers/ or so. Not sure what the best way would be to do 
it (without causing runtime overhead in event processing), but we should 
reduce our reliance on /proc and export such instrumentation information via a 
single, coherent interface.

There's a couple of other 'system settings' values that would be useful to 
expose in such a way - for example the number of online CPUs. (in fact that 
could be exposed as a set of online/offline events plus a way to read the 
current count as well)

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-16  7:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-15 11:17 [PATCH 0/4] perf_event: introduce 'perf timer' to analyze timer's behavior Xiao Guangrong
2009-12-15 11:19 ` [PATCH 1/4] trace_event: record task' real_timer in itimer_state tracepoint Xiao Guangrong
2009-12-15 11:20   ` [PATCH 2/4] perf_event: fix getting point Xiao Guangrong
2009-12-15 11:21     ` [PATCH 3/4] perf/timer: add document Xiao Guangrong
2009-12-15 11:22       ` [PATCH 4/4] perf/timer: 'perf timer' core code Xiao Guangrong
2009-12-15 17:44         ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-16  5:56           ` Xiao Guangrong
2009-12-16 15:59             ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-17  7:26               ` Xiao Guangrong
2009-12-15 13:58     ` [PATCH 2/4] perf_event: fix getting point Frederic Weisbecker
2009-12-16  1:03       ` Xiao Guangrong
2009-12-16  1:22         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-12-16  1:32           ` Xiao Guangrong
2009-12-15 14:15 ` [PATCH 0/4] perf_event: introduce 'perf timer' to analyze timer's behavior Frederic Weisbecker
2009-12-16  1:19   ` Xiao Guangrong
2009-12-16  7:32     ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-12-16  7:40       ` Xiao Guangrong
2009-12-16  7:46         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-15 14:23 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-12-22 13:00   ` [PATCH v2 0/5] " Xiao Guangrong
2009-12-22 13:01     ` [PATCH v2 1/5] perf_event: fix getting point Xiao Guangrong
2009-12-22 13:03     ` [PATCH v2 2/5]: trace_event: export HZ in timer's tracepoint format Xiao Guangrong
2009-12-22 13:20       ` Xiao Guangrong
2009-12-28  7:54       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-28 10:40         ` Xiao Guangrong
2009-12-29  5:20         ` [PATCH v3 0/5] perf tools: introduce 'perf timer' to analyze timer's behavior Xiao Guangrong
2009-12-29  5:21         ` [PATCH v3 1/5] perf_event: introduce 'inject' event and get HZ Xiao Guangrong
2009-12-30  9:19           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-30  9:28             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-30  9:36               ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-30  9:44                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-30 10:06                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-30 11:30                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-30  9:37             ` Xiao Guangrong
2009-12-30  9:45               ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-29  5:21         ` [PATCH v3 2/5] trace_event: record task' real_timer in itimer_state tracepoint Xiao Guangrong
2009-12-29  5:21         ` [PATCH v3 3/5] perf tools: fix getting point Xiao Guangrong
2009-12-29  5:21         ` [PATCH v3 4/5] perf timer: add document for 'perf timer' Xiao Guangrong
2009-12-29  5:22         ` [PATCH v3 5/5] perf timer: add 'perf timer' core code Xiao Guangrong
2009-12-22 13:04     ` [PATCH v2 3/5] trace_event: record task' real_timer in itimer_state tracepoint Xiao Guangrong
2009-12-22 13:06       ` [PATCH v2 4/5] perf/timer: add document for 'perf timer' Xiao Guangrong
2009-12-22 13:08         ` [PATCH v2 5/5] perf/timer: add 'perf timer' core code Xiao Guangrong

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