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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, josh@joshtriplett.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, dhowells@redhat.com,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] introduce sys_membarrier(): process-wide memory barrier
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 12:10:20 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100110171020.GA13329@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1263140480.4561.7.camel@frodo>

* Steven Rostedt (rostedt@goodmis.org) wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-01-10 at 11:03 -0500, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > * Steven Rostedt (rostedt@goodmis.org) wrote:
> 
> > The way I see it, TLB can be seen as read-only elements (a local
> > read-only cache) on the processors. Therefore, we don't care if they are
> > in a stale state while performing the cpumask update, because the fact
> > that we are executing switch_mm() means that these TLB entries are not
> > being used locally anyway and will be dropped shortly. So we have the
> > equivalent of a full memory barrier (load_cr3()) _after_ the cpumask
> > updates.
> > 
> > However, in sys_membarrier(), we also need to flush the write buffers
> > present on each processor running threads which belong to our current
> > process. Therefore, we would need, in addition, a smp_mb() before the
> > mm cpumask modification. For x86, cpumask_clear_cpu/cpumask_set_cpu
> > implies a LOCK-prefixed operation, and hence does not need any added
> > barrier, but this could be different for other architectures.
> > 
> > So, AFAIK, doing a flush_tlb() would not guarantee the kind of
> > synchronization we are looking for because an uncommitted write buffer
> > could still sit on the remote CPU when we return from sys_membarrier().
> 
> Ah, so you are saying we can have this:
> 
> 
> 	CPU 0			CPU 1
>      ----------		    --------------
> 	obj = list->obj;
> 				<user space>
> 				rcu_read_lock();
> 				obj = rcu_dereference(list->obj);
> 				obj->foo = bar;
> 
> 				<preempt>
> 				<kernel space>
> 
> 				schedule();
> 				cpumask_clear(mm_cpumask, cpu);
> 
> 	sys_membarrier();
> 	free(obj);
> 
> 				<store to obj->foo goes to memory>  <- corruption
> 

Hrm, having a writer like this in a rcu read-side would be a bit weird.
We have to look at the actual rcu_read_lock() implementation in urcu to
see why load/stores are important on the rcu read-side.

(note: _STORE_SHARED is simply a volatile store)

(Thread-local variable, shared with the thread doing synchronize_rcu())
struct urcu_reader __thread urcu_reader;

static inline void _rcu_read_lock(void)
{
        long tmp;

        tmp = urcu_reader.ctr;
        if (likely(!(tmp & RCU_GP_CTR_NEST_MASK))) {
                _STORE_SHARED(urcu_reader.ctr, _LOAD_SHARED(urcu_gp_ctr));
                /*
                 * Set active readers count for outermost nesting level before
                 * accessing the pointer. See force_mb_all_threads().
                 */
                barrier();
        } else {
                _STORE_SHARED(urcu_reader.ctr, tmp + RCU_GP_COUNT);
        }
}

So as you see here, we have to ensure that the store to urcu_reader.ctr
is globally visible before entering the critical section (previous
stores must complete before following loads). For rcu_read_unlock, it's
the opposite:

static inline void _rcu_read_unlock(void)
{
        long tmp;

        tmp = urcu_reader.ctr;
        /*
         * Finish using rcu before decrementing the pointer.
         * See force_mb_all_threads().
         */
        if (likely((tmp & RCU_GP_CTR_NEST_MASK) == RCU_GP_COUNT)) {
                barrier();
                _STORE_SHARED(urcu_reader.ctr, urcu_reader.ctr - RCU_GP_COUNT);
        } else {
                _STORE_SHARED(urcu_reader.ctr, urcu_reader.ctr - RCU_GP_COUNT);
        }
}

We need to ensure that previous loads complete before following stores.

Therefore, the race with unlock showing that we need to order loads
before stores:

	CPU 0			CPU 1
        --------------          --------------
                                <user space> (already in read-side C.S.)
                                obj = rcu_dereference(list->next);
                                  -> load list->next
                                copy = obj->foo;
                                rcu_read_unlock();
                                  -> store to urcu_reader.ctr
                                <urcu_reader.ctr store is globally visible>
        list_del(obj);
                                <preempt>
                                <kernel space>

                                schedule();
                                cpumask_clear(mm_cpumask, cpu);

        sys_membarrier();
        set global g.p. (urcu_gp_ctr) phase to 1
        wait for all urcu_reader.ctr in phase 0
        set global g.p. (urcu_gp_ctr) phase to 0
        wait for all urcu_reader.ctr in phase 1
        sys_membarrier();
        free(obj);
                                <list->next load hits memory>
                                <obj->foo load hits memory> <- corruption

> 		
> So, if there's no smp_wmb() between the <preempt> and cpumask_clear()
> then we have an issue?

Considering the scenario above, we would need a full smp_mb() (or
equivalent) rather than just smp_wmb() to be strictly correct.

Thanks,

Mathieu

> 
> -- Steve
> 
> 

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-10 17:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-07  4:40 [RFC PATCH] introduce sys_membarrier(): process-wide memory barrier Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07  5:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07  5:39   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07  8:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-07 16:39     ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07  5:28 ` Josh Triplett
2010-01-07  6:04   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07  6:32     ` Josh Triplett
2010-01-07 17:45       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07 16:46     ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07  5:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-07  6:19   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07  6:35     ` Josh Triplett
2010-01-07  8:44       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-07 13:15         ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-07 15:07         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07 16:52         ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 17:18           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-07 17:31             ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 17:44               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07 17:55                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 17:44               ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-07 17:56                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 18:04                   ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-07 18:40                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 17:36             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07 14:27     ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-07 15:10       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07 16:49   ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 17:00     ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-07  8:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-07 18:30   ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-01-07 18:39     ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 18:59       ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-07 19:16         ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 19:40           ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-07 20:58             ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 21:35               ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-07 22:34                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-08 22:28                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-08 23:53                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-09  0:20                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-09  1:02                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-09  1:21                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-09  1:22                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-09  2:38                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-09  5:42                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-09 19:20                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-09 23:05                               ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-09 23:16                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-10  0:03                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-10  0:41                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-10  1:14                                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-10  1:44                                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-10  2:12                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-10  5:25                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-10 11:50                                             ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-10 16:03                                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-10 16:21                                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-10 17:10                                                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2010-01-10 21:02                                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-10 21:41                                                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-11  1:21                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-10 17:45                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-10 18:24                                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-11  1:17                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-11  4:25                                                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-11  4:29                                                       ` [RFC PATCH] introduce sys_membarrier(): process-wide memory barrier (v3a) Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-11 17:27                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-11 17:35                                                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-11 17:50                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-11 20:52                                                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-11 21:19                                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-11 22:04                                                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-11 22:20                                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-11 22:48                                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-11 22:48                                                                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-11 21:19                                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-11 21:31                                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-11  4:30                                                       ` [RFC PATCH] introduce sys_membarrier(): process-wide memory barrier (v3b) Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-11 22:43                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-12 15:38                                                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-12 16:27                                                             ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-12 16:38                                                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-12 16:54                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-12 18:12                                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-12 18:56                                                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-13  0:23                                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-11 16:25                                                       ` [RFC PATCH] introduce sys_membarrier(): process-wide memory barrier Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-11 20:21                                                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-11 21:48                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-14  2:56                                                             ` Lai Jiangshan
2010-01-14  5:13                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-14  5:39                                                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-10  5:18                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-10  1:12                                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-10  5:19                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-10  1:04                                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-10  1:01                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-09 23:59                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-10  1:11                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07  9:50 ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-07 15:12   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07 16:56   ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 11:04 ` David Howells
2010-01-07 15:15   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07 15:47     ` David Howells

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