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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, josh@joshtriplett.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, dhowells@redhat.com,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] introduce sys_membarrier(): process-wide memory barrier
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 23:25:21 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100111042521.GB32213@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100111011705.GJ9044@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

* Paul E. McKenney (paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com) wrote:
[...]
> > Even when taking the spinlocks, efficient iteration on active threads is
> > done with for_each_cpu(cpu, mm_cpumask(current->mm)), which depends on
> > the same cpumask, and thus requires the same memory barriers around the
> > updates.
> 
> Ouch!!!  Good point and good catch!!!
> 
> > We could switch to an inefficient iteration on all online CPUs instead,
> > and check read runqueue ->mm with the spinlock held. Is that what you
> > propose ? This will cause reading of large amounts of runqueue
> > information, especially on large systems running few threads. The other
> > way around is to iterate on all the process threads: in this case, small
> > systems running many threads will have to read information about many
> > inactive threads, which is not much better.
> 
> I am not all that worried about exactly what we do as long as it is
> pretty obviously correct.  We can then improve performance when and as
> the need arises.  We might need to use any of the strategies you
> propose, or perhaps even choose among them depending on the number of
> threads in the process, the number of CPUs, and so forth.  (I hope not,
> but...)
> 
> My guess is that an obviously correct approach would work well for a
> slowpath.  If someone later runs into performance problems, we can fix
> them with the added knowledge of what they are trying to do.
> 

OK, here is what I propose. Let's choose between two implementations
(v3a and v3b), which implement two "obviously correct" approaches. In
summary:

* baseline (based on 2.6.32.2)
   text	   data	    bss	    dec	    hex	filename
  76887	   8782	   2044	  87713	  156a1	kernel/sched.o

* v3a: ipi to many using mm_cpumask

- adds smp_mb__before_clear_bit()/smp_mb__after_clear_bit() before and
  after mm_cpumask stores in context_switch(). They are only executed
  when oldmm and mm are different. (it's my turn to hide behind an
  appropriately-sized boulder for touching the scheduler). ;) Note that
  it's not that bad, as these barriers turn into simple compiler barrier()
  on:
    avr32, blackfin, cris, frb, h8300, m32r, m68k, mn10300, score, sh,
    sparc, x86 and xtensa.
  The less lucky architectures gaining two smp_mb() are:
    alpha, arm, ia64, mips, parisc, powerpc and s390.
  ia64 is gaining only one smp_mb() thanks to its acquire semantic.
- size
   text	   data	    bss	    dec	    hex	filename
  77239	   8782	   2044	  88065	  15801	kernel/sched.o
  -> adds 352 bytes of text
- Number of lines (system call source code, w/o comments) : 18

* v3b: iteration on min(num_online_cpus(), nr threads in the process),
  taking runqueue spinlocks, allocating a cpumask, ipi to many to the
  cpumask. Does not allocate the cpumask if only a single IPI is needed.

- only adds sys_membarrier() and related functions.
- size
   text	   data	    bss	    dec	    hex	filename
  78047	   8782	   2044	  88873	  15b29	kernel/sched.o
  -> adds 1160 bytes of text
- Number of lines (system call source code, w/o comments) : 163

I'll reply to this email with the two implementations. Comments are
welcome.

Thanks,

Mathieu

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
OpenPGP key fingerprint: 8CD5 52C3 8E3C 4140 715F  BA06 3F25 A8FE 3BAE 9A68

  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-11  4:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-07  4:40 [RFC PATCH] introduce sys_membarrier(): process-wide memory barrier Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07  5:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07  5:39   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07  8:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-07 16:39     ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07  5:28 ` Josh Triplett
2010-01-07  6:04   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07  6:32     ` Josh Triplett
2010-01-07 17:45       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07 16:46     ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07  5:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-07  6:19   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07  6:35     ` Josh Triplett
2010-01-07  8:44       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-07 13:15         ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-07 15:07         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07 16:52         ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 17:18           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-07 17:31             ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 17:44               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07 17:55                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 17:44               ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-07 17:56                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 18:04                   ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-07 18:40                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 17:36             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07 14:27     ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-07 15:10       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07 16:49   ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 17:00     ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-07  8:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-07 18:30   ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-01-07 18:39     ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 18:59       ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-07 19:16         ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 19:40           ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-07 20:58             ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 21:35               ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-07 22:34                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-08 22:28                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-08 23:53                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-09  0:20                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-09  1:02                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-09  1:21                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-09  1:22                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-09  2:38                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-09  5:42                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-09 19:20                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-09 23:05                               ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-09 23:16                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-10  0:03                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-10  0:41                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-10  1:14                                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-10  1:44                                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-10  2:12                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-10  5:25                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-10 11:50                                             ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-10 16:03                                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-10 16:21                                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-10 17:10                                                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-10 21:02                                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-10 21:41                                                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-11  1:21                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-10 17:45                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-10 18:24                                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-11  1:17                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-11  4:25                                                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2010-01-11  4:29                                                       ` [RFC PATCH] introduce sys_membarrier(): process-wide memory barrier (v3a) Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-11 17:27                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-11 17:35                                                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-11 17:50                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-11 20:52                                                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-11 21:19                                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-11 22:04                                                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-11 22:20                                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-11 22:48                                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-11 22:48                                                                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-11 21:19                                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-11 21:31                                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-11  4:30                                                       ` [RFC PATCH] introduce sys_membarrier(): process-wide memory barrier (v3b) Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-11 22:43                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-12 15:38                                                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-12 16:27                                                             ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-12 16:38                                                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-12 16:54                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-12 18:12                                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-12 18:56                                                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-13  0:23                                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-11 16:25                                                       ` [RFC PATCH] introduce sys_membarrier(): process-wide memory barrier Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-11 20:21                                                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-11 21:48                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-14  2:56                                                             ` Lai Jiangshan
2010-01-14  5:13                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-14  5:39                                                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-10  5:18                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-10  1:12                                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-10  5:19                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-10  1:04                                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-10  1:01                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-09 23:59                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-10  1:11                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07  9:50 ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-07 15:12   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07 16:56   ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 11:04 ` David Howells
2010-01-07 15:15   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07 15:47     ` David Howells

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