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From: Don Zickus <dzickus@redhat.com>
To: mingo@elte.hu
Cc: aris@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: introduce NMI_AUTO as nmi_watchdog option
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 14:16:33 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100111191633.GT24885@redhat.com> (raw)

Hi Ingo,

To dig up an old thread last November:

======
* Aristeu Rozanski <aris@redhat.com> wrote:

> > > > > NMI_AUTO is a new nmi_watchdog option that makes LAPIC be tried
> > > > > first 
> > > > > and if the CPU isn't supported, IOAPIC will be used. It's useful
> > > > > in 
> > > > > cases where NMI watchdog is enabled by default in a kernel built
> > > > > for 
> > > > > different machines. It can be configured by default or selected
> > > > > with 
> > > > > nmi_watchdog=3 or nmi_watchdog=auto parameters.
> > > > 
> > > > What i'd like to see for the NMI watchdog is much more ambitious
> > > > than 
> > > > this: the use of perf events to run a periodic NMI callback.
> > > > 
> > > > The NMI watchdog would cause the creation of a per-cpu perf_event 
> > > > structure (in-kernel). All x86 CPUs that have perf event support
> > > > (the 
		> > > > majority of them) will thus be able to have an NMI
> > > > watchdog using a 
> > > > nice, generic piece of code and we'd be able to phase out the
> > > > open-coded 
> > > > NMI watchdog code.
> > > > 
> > > > The user would not notice much from this: we'd still have the 
> > > > /proc/sys/kernel/nmi_watchdog toggle to turn it on/off, and we'd
> > > > still 
> > > > have the nmi_watchog= boot parameter as well. But the underlying 
> > > > implementation would be far more generic and far more usable than
> > > > the 
> > > > current code.
> > > > 
> > > > Would you be interested in moving the NMI watchdog code in this 
> > > > direction? Most of the perf events changes (callbacks, helpers for 
		> > > > in-kernel event allocations, etc.) are in latest
> > > > -tip already, so you 
> > > > could use that as a base.
> > >
> > > but that would work only for LAPIC. You're suggesting killing IOAPIC 
> > > mode too?
> > 
> > Would it be a big loss, with all modern systems expected to have a 
> > working lapic based NMI source? I wrote the IOAPIC mode originally but
> > i 
> > dont feel too attached to it ;-)
>
> ok, fair enough. but since it'll be another implementation, do you 
> mind applying the patches I submitted so they can be used until the 
> new implementation is in place?

For that i need to see at least an RFC v1 version series of the new 
implementation - otherwise we might end up sitting on this interim 
version with no-one doing the better variant.

========

I was going to jump in and try to do this work.  I wanted to make sure
what you were looking for here.  When you say convert nmi watchdog to perf
events, I assume you mean merging over the bits of perfctr-watchdog.c to
perf_events.c, modify nmi.c to just register as a normal perf event and
probably cleanup the oprofile stuff to match, correct?

Cheers,
Don


             reply	other threads:[~2010-01-11 19:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-11 19:16 Don Zickus [this message]
2010-01-11 20:27 ` introduce NMI_AUTO as nmi_watchdog option Cyrill Gorcunov
2010-01-11 20:33   ` Don Zickus
2010-01-11 20:51     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2010-01-13  9:32     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-01-13 13:13       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-13 16:25         ` Don Zickus
2010-01-13 16:42           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-13 16:35         ` Ingo Molnar
2010-01-13 16:23       ` Don Zickus

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