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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, josh@joshtriplett.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, dhowells@redhat.com,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] introduce sys_membarrier(): process-wide memory barrier (v5)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:37:39 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100114183739.GA18435@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100114175449.GA15387@Krystal>

* Mathieu Desnoyers (mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca) wrote:
> * Peter Zijlstra (peterz@infradead.org) wrote:
> > On Thu, 2010-01-14 at 11:26 -0500, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > 
> > > It's this scenario that is causing problem. Let's consider this
> > > execution:
> > > 
> 
> (slightly augmented)
> 
>        CPU 0 (membarrier)                  CPU 1 (another mm -> our mm)
>        <user-space>
>                                            <kernel-space>
>                                            switch_mm()
>                                              smp_mb()
>                                              clear_mm_cpumask()
>                                              set_mm_cpumask()
>                                              smp_mb() (by load_cr3() on x86)
>                                            switch_to()
>        memory access before membarrier
>        <call sys_membarrier()>
>        smp_mb()
>        mm_cpumask includes CPU 1
>        rcu_read_lock()
>        if (CPU 1 mm != our mm)
>          skip CPU 1.
>        rcu_read_unlock()
>        smp_mb()
>        <return to user-space>
>                                              current = next (1)
>                                            <switch back to user-space>
>                                            urcu read lock()
>                                              read gp
>                                              store local gp (2)
>                                              barrier()
>                                              access critical section data (3)
>        memory access after membarrier
> 
> So if we don't have any memory barrier between (1) and (3), the memory
> operations can be reordered in such a way that CPU 0 will not send IPI
> to a CPU that would need to have it's barrier() promoted into a
> smp_mb().
> 
> > 
> > I'm still not getting it, sure we don't send an IPI, but it will have
> > done an mb() in switch_mm() to become our mm, so even without the IPI it
> > will have executed that mb we were after.
> 
> The augmented race window above shows that it would be possible for (2)
> and (3) to be reordered across the barrier(), and therefore the critical
> section access could spill over a rcu-unlocked state.

To make this painfully clear, I'll reorder the accesses to match that of
the CPU to memory:

       CPU 0 (membarrier)                  CPU 1 (another mm -our mm)
       <user-space>
                                           <kernel-space>
                                           switch_mm()
                                             smp_mb()
                                             clear_mm_cpumask()
                                             set_mm_cpumask()
                                             smp_mb() (by load_cr3() on x86)
                                           switch_to()
                                             <buffered current = next>
                                           <switch back to user-space>
                                           urcu read lock()
                                             access critical section data (3)
       memory access before membarrier
       <call sys_membarrier()>
       smp_mb()
       mm_cpumask includes CPU 1
       rcu_read_lock()
       if (CPU 1 mm != our mm)
         skip CPU 1.
       rcu_read_unlock()
       smp_mb()
       <return to user-space>
       memory access after membarrier
                                             current = next (1) (buffer flush)
                                             read gp
                                             store local gp (2)

This should make the problem a bit more evident. Access (3) is done
outside of the read-side C.S. as far as the userspace synchronize_rcu()
is concerned.

Thanks,

Mathieu


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Mathieu Desnoyers
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-14 18:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-13  1:37 [RFC PATCH] introduce sys_membarrier(): process-wide memory barrier (v5) Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-13  3:23 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-01-13  3:58   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-13  4:47     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-01-13  5:33       ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-13 15:03       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-14  0:15         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-01-14  2:16           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-14  2:25             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-01-13  5:00 ` Nicholas Miell
2010-01-13  5:31   ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-13  5:39     ` Nicholas Miell
2010-01-13 14:38       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-13 18:07         ` Nicholas Miell
2010-01-13 18:24           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-13 18:41             ` Nicholas Miell
2010-01-13 19:17               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-13 19:42                 ` David Daney
2010-01-13 19:53                   ` Nicholas Miell
2010-01-13 23:42                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-13 15:58       ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-13 11:07 ` Heiko Carstens
2010-01-13 14:46   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-13 16:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-13 19:36   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-14  9:08     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-14 16:26       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-14 17:03         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-14 17:54           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-14 18:37             ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2010-01-14 18:52               ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-14 19:33                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-14 21:26                   ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-19 18:37                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-19 19:06                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-20  3:13                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-20  8:45                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-21 11:26                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-21 16:07                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-21 16:12                           ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-21 16:22                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-21 16:32                               ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-21 17:02                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-21 16:17                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-21 17:01                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-19 19:43                     ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-14 18:50             ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-19 16:47         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-19 17:11           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-19 17:30           ` Steven Rostedt

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