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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Sebastian Ott <sebott@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] PM: disable nonboot cpus before suspending devices
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 22:37:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201001252237.42545.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1001251601440.2100@localhost>

On Monday 25 January 2010, Sebastian Ott wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> On Fri, 22 Jan 2010, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> 
> > On Friday 22 January 2010, Sebastian Ott wrote:
> > > 
> > > a possible fix would be to call disable_nonboot_cpus before suspending the
> > > devices..
> > 
> > This is going against the changes attempting to speed-up suspend and resume,
> > such as the asynchronous suspend/resume patchset, so I don't agree with it.
> 
> Isn't the main benefit for this scenario that while a driver starts io and
> waits for interrupts, the callback for the next device can be called? And
> this can be done with one cpu as well.

That's the basic idea, but the additional CPUs help quite a bit.

> > The real solution would be to remove the memory allocations from the
> > _cpu_down() call path.
> 
> So you have to also ban allocations from all registered notifiers at the
> cpu_chain. And since enable_nonboot_cpus is called before the devices are
> woken up, the same would be true for _cpu_up() which may not be done
> easily.

That's correct.  BTW, that's what the CPU_TASKS_FROZEN bit is for among other
things (perhaps it may be used to fix this particular issue).

> > BTW, this is one of the cases I and Ben are talking about where it's not
> > practical to rework the code just to avoid memory allocation problems during
> > suspend/resume.
> 
> Ok. All i'm saying is that in hibernation_snapshot/create_image memory
> allocations are directely triggered after all devices were put to sleep /
> before woken up - and this looks like a bug.

I agree, but that's because people don't remember that CPU hotplug is also
used for suspend/hibernation.  I don't know at the moment how much effort
it would take to fix all of these problems appropriately, but I _guess_ that
would be quite some work.  That, among other things, is why I sent the patch
to modify gfp_allowed_mask before suspending devices.

> For the driver case - what about using your patch to not modify the gfp
> mask but print a warning instead so that these drivers can be identified
> and fixed.

We'd get a lot of warnings and there are cases where we know they would
trigger (eg. ACPI internals).  So, I'd rather like to reduce the users' pain
(by changing gfp_allowed_mask) than add to it (by adding a warning that's
guaranteed to show up).

Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-25 21:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-22 18:00 [RFC][PATCH] PM: disable nonboot cpus before suspending devices Sebastian Ott
2010-01-22 20:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-22 21:24   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-25 15:08   ` Sebastian Ott
2010-01-25 21:37     ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2010-02-01 14:41       ` Sebastian Ott
2010-02-01 15:30         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-02-01 15:43           ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-02-01 15:57           ` Andrew Morton
2010-02-03  1:44             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-02-03  1:48               ` Andrew Morton
2010-02-03 22:34                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-02-03 23:08                   ` Andrew Morton
2010-02-04  0:50                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-02-04  1:21                       ` Andrew Morton
2010-02-04  1:41                         ` Andrew Morton
2010-02-04 19:33                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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