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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <compudj@krystal.dyndns.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 03/10] ftrace: Drop the ftrace_profile_enabled checks in tracing hot path
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 01:41:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100126004153.GJ5087@nowhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B5E17B8.4090002@redhat.com>

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 05:14:16PM -0500, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
> Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 07:34:51AM -0500, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> >> * Steven Rostedt (rostedt@goodmis.org) wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 2010-01-21 at 23:09 -0500, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> >>>> * Steven Rostedt (rostedt@goodmis.org) wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> Hmm, interesting. Maybe something like that might work. But what if
> >>>>> CONFIG_PREEMPT is enabled but CONFIG_FREEZER is not?
> >>>>
> >>>> Then you may want to make the function tracer depend on CONFIG_FREEZER,
> >>>> but maybe Masami has other ideas ?
> >>>
> >>> egad no! This is just to help add guarantees to those that use the
> >>> function tracer that when the tracing is disabled, it is guaranteed that
> >>> no more tracing will be called by the function tracer. Currently,
> >>> nothing relies on this. But we may add cases that might need this.
> >>
> >> Yep, identifying tracer quiescent state can become handy.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> In fact, only those that need this requirement would need to do this
> >>> trick. Anyway, we could make those depend on CONFIG_FREEZER, but that
> >>> just seems to be a strange dependency.
> >>
> >> This makes me wonder (question for Masami)...
> >>
> >> static int __kprobes check_safety(void)
> >> {
> >>         int ret = 0;
> >> #if defined(CONFIG_PREEMPT) && defined(CONFIG_FREEZER)
> >>         ret = freeze_processes();
> >>         if (ret == 0) {
> >>                 struct task_struct *p, *q;
> >>                 do_each_thread(p, q) {
> >>                         if (p != current && p->state == TASK_RUNNING &&
> >>                             p->pid != 0) {
> >>                                 printk("Check failed: %s is running\n",p->comm);
> >>                                 ret = -1;
> >>                                 goto loop_end;
> >>                         }
> >>                 } while_each_thread(p, q);
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > How does that deal with kernel threads that don't freeze?
> 
> Hmm, right. It can't handle non-freezable kernel threads.
> 
> > Also freezing every processes seems a bit of a heavy thing for that.
> > Looks like a synchronize_tasks() would be really useful.
> 
> Sure :-)
> Maybe, I'd better remove booster support on preemptive kernel until then.


I don't know as I haven't looked deeper into check_safety(), but does the
fact we have non-freezable tasks break the assumptions that make
kprobes booster safe? If so then yeah, may be deactivate it for now.


  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-26  0:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-22  1:16 [RFC PATCH 00/10] Ftrace functions hashlist Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-22  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH 01/10] ftrace: Generalize the function hashlist from function profiler Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-22  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH 02/10] ftrace: Ensure tracing has really stopped before leaving unregister_ftrace_graph Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-22  1:51   ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-22  2:04     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-22  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH 03/10] ftrace: Drop the ftrace_profile_enabled checks in tracing hot path Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-22  2:05   ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-22  2:28     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-22  3:12       ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-22  4:09         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-22  4:52           ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-22 12:34             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-22 14:54               ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-01-25 20:58               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-25 22:14                 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-01-26  0:41                   ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2010-01-26  1:13                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-26  1:37                       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-01-27 21:55                         ` [PATCH tracing/kprobes] kprobes: Disable booster when CONFIG_PREEMPT=y Masami Hiramatsu
2010-01-28  1:08                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-28  4:21                           ` Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli
2010-01-29  9:21                           ` Ingo Molnar
2010-01-29 11:30                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-29 14:52                             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-01-29 17:08                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-29 17:15                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-29 17:27                                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-29 17:32                                     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-01-22  2:43     ` [RFC PATCH 03/10] ftrace: Drop the ftrace_profile_enabled checks in tracing hot path Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-22  3:05       ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-25 20:52         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-22  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH 04/10] ftrace: Ensure buffers are visibles to tracing callbacks right away Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-22  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH 05/10] ftrace: Drop buffer check in function profiler callbacks Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-25  6:17   ` Lai Jiangshan
2010-01-30 20:47     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-22  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH 06/10] ftrace: Release the function hlist if we don't need it anymore Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-25  6:41   ` Lai Jiangshan
2010-01-30 21:14     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-22  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH 07/10] ftrace: Make the function hashlist concurrently usable Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-22  1:16 ` [PATCH 08/10] tracing: Simplify test for function_graph tracing Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-22  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH 09/10] tracing: Use the hashlist for graph function Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-25  8:50   ` Lai Jiangshan
2010-01-30 21:19     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-22  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH 10/10] ftrace: Factorize search and insertion in the function hashlist Frederic Weisbecker

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