From: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
To: Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>
Cc: "J.H." <warthog9@kernel.org>,
lasse.collin@tukaani.org, mirrors@kernel.org,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"FTPAdmin Kernel.org" <ftpadmin@kernel.org>,
users@kernel.org, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [kernel.org users] XZ Migration discussion
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 00:07:02 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100212230702.GA10266@1wt.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100212202357.6363d5af@hyperion.delvare>
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 08:23:57PM +0100, Jean Delvare wrote:
> > It's probably worth keeping things like the .gz files around, if nothing
> > else for older distros, systems, etc that don't have xz yet (since it's
> > still relatively new)
>
> Hardly a good reason IMHO. xz can be installed on these systems. When
> we switched to git, nobody had it and it did not stop us.
I don't agree, it's different. Git is only used by developers, and even
not all of them. Sources are a reference. Anyone can download them to
look for anything. Switching to a specific format which really is not
common at all on older distros nor on any system looks a bit like
proprietary encoding eventhough it's not the case. But it's a way to
tell people that if they want the sources in clear text form, they
first have to find a tool capable of decompressing them. Gzip is well
defined as a standard, it's even described in an RFC and is present
on almost any system (unix or not) now. Any student who wants to take
a look at the kernel will have access to gunzip, even from an old
Solaris 8 workstation or a Windows XP desktop PC. XZ if far from
being there, and the student will not necessarily be able to install
it. And Peter raised some valid points about the hardware requirements
to run such tools ; I'm not sure the guys running Linux on their old
Sparc-2 would like XZ only a lot.
Regards,
Willy
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-02-12 23:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-02-11 18:36 XZ Migration discussion J.H.
2010-02-11 19:44 ` david
2010-02-11 19:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-12 0:14 ` [kernel.org mirrors] " Carlos Carvalho
2010-02-11 20:22 ` [kernel.org users] " Willy Tarreau
2010-02-11 20:51 ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-11 22:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-12 14:35 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-13 17:10 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-13 18:49 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-02-13 19:30 ` Randy Dunlap
2010-02-16 14:55 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-02-13 23:28 ` Stefan Richter
2010-02-14 9:07 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-13 23:52 ` Phillip Lougher
2010-02-14 9:23 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-14 9:33 ` Justin P. Mattock
2010-02-14 9:49 ` Willy Tarreau
2010-02-14 12:43 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-15 21:31 ` James Cloos
2010-02-17 5:40 ` Willy Tarreau
2010-02-17 5:54 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-17 10:22 ` Petri Kaukasoina
2010-02-17 10:25 ` Petri Kaukasoina
2010-02-14 9:56 ` Andi Kleen
2010-02-18 23:59 ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-02-14 10:16 ` Lasse Collin
2010-02-12 14:01 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-12 15:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-02-12 19:02 ` J.H.
2010-02-12 19:23 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-12 23:07 ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2010-02-13 6:20 ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-13 10:06 ` Stefan Richter
2010-02-13 10:21 ` Stefan Richter
2010-02-14 9:56 ` Lasse Collin
2010-02-13 8:17 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-13 9:59 ` Stefan Richter
2010-02-13 10:18 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-13 21:37 ` [kernel] " Mr. James W. Laferriere
2010-02-13 22:39 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2010-02-15 19:33 ` [kernel.org users] [kernel] " Steve French
2010-02-16 9:16 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2010-02-16 15:13 ` J.H.
2010-02-14 17:13 ` [kernel.org users] " Pavel Machek
2010-02-14 17:33 ` Stefan Richter
2010-02-14 20:51 ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-15 8:48 ` Stefan Richter
2010-02-15 23:32 ` Tom Rini
2010-02-16 8:21 ` Stefan Richter
2010-02-14 17:07 ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-14 18:39 ` Stefan Richter
2010-02-14 21:04 ` david
2010-02-14 21:32 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-14 18:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-14 19:08 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-15 15:15 ` tytso
2010-02-16 15:29 ` J.H.
2010-02-16 16:03 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-17 1:36 ` David Rees
2010-02-16 14:00 ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-19 0:08 ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-02-19 4:38 ` J.H.
2010-02-12 15:25 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-02-12 16:11 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-12 16:30 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-02-12 16:44 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-12 20:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-02-12 21:16 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-02-16 15:39 ` ketchup was " Pavel Machek
2010-02-16 16:17 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-02-16 16:27 ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-21 13:53 ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-21 14:26 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-21 19:28 ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-22 18:59 ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-23 13:14 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-02-23 20:32 ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-12 19:02 ` Phillip Lougher
2010-02-12 19:32 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-12 19:57 ` Phillip Lougher
2010-02-12 21:59 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-12 23:30 ` Phillip Lougher
2010-02-12 23:39 ` Phillip Lougher
2010-02-13 7:31 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-13 22:37 ` Phillip Lougher
2010-02-14 9:32 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-14 9:53 ` Justin P. Mattock
[not found] ` <20100212223547.GN5186@tux>
2010-02-13 7:20 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-12 19:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-12 20:25 ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-02-12 21:54 ` Greg KH
2010-02-12 21:58 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-02-14 14:49 ` Harald Arnesen
2010-02-14 18:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-12 20:31 ` [kernel.org mirrors] " Sleddens, J.P.G.
2010-02-12 22:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-12 23:14 ` [kernel.org users] [kernel.org mirrors] " Willy Tarreau
2010-02-13 7:42 ` [kernel.org users] " Tony Luck
2010-02-13 8:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-13 8:53 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-14 5:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <987664A83D2D224EAE907B061CE93D53123E0ED5@orsmsx505.amr.corp.intel.com>
2010-02-17 0:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-14 18:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-02-14 22:27 ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-02-15 16:15 ` Jean Delvare
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20100212230702.GA10266@1wt.eu \
--to=w@1wt.eu \
--cc=ftpadmin@kernel.org \
--cc=khali@linux-fr.org \
--cc=lasse.collin@tukaani.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=mirrors@kernel.org \
--cc=torvalds@linux-foundation.org \
--cc=users@kernel.org \
--cc=warthog9@kernel.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).