From: Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: "J.H." <warthog9@kernel.org>,
"FTPAdmin Kernel.org" <ftpadmin@kernel.org>,
users@kernel.org, lasse.collin@tukaani.org,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
mirrors@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [kernel.org users] XZ Migration discussion
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:10:08 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100213181008.479509f5@hyperion.delvare> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100211205129.GA26105@elf.ucw.cz>
Hi Pavel, all,
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:51:29 +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
>
> > Option 1)
> >
> > Leave gz as the master, and migrate bz2 to xz. This will happen in
> > stages obviously. with bz2 ultimately being phased out.
> >
> > Migration option 1)
> >
> > All new content would be provided in .bz2 and .xz with
> > an ultimate date set that the .bz2 files would stop
> > being generated with new content. This would leave all
> > existing content alone and it would not be a migration
> > of the current .bz2 files to xz
>
> I believe this is cleanest. gzip has performance advantages, (...)
I have been investigating this issue and would like to share my
findings as an additional data point for this discussion.
For my testing, I have been using the slowest machine I still have
available here: a Pentium 166 MMX, with 64 MB of memory and a slow hard
disk drive. I've been writing down the duration of each task it took to
boot kernel 2.6.27.45 on this machine. I did this for both .gz and .bz2
formats.
Raw results are as follow (format=min:s):
downloading linux-2.6.27.tar.bz2 5:01
downloading patch-2.6.27.45.bz2 0:02
unpacking linux-2.6.27.tar.bz2 7:28
applying patch-2.6.27.45.bz2 1:21
----------------------------------------------
total for bz2 13:52
downloading linux-2.6.27.tar.gz 6:23
downloading patch-2.6.27.45.gz 0:02
unpacking linux-2.6.27.tar.gz 3:20
applying patch-2.6.27.45.gz 1:10
----------------------------------------------
total for gz 10:55
So the gz option is unsurprisingly faster, setting up the source tree
takes almost 3 minutes less (-21%).
Then the (common) build and installation times:
building 117:26
installing modules 0:12
----------------------------------------------
total 117:38
This is a customized kernel, as small as I could do, with almost no
features and the minimal set of drivers. As you can see, the build time
is one order of magnitude greater than the tree setup time. Comparing
the total times from download to install between bz2 and gz:
bz2: 13:52 + 117:38 = 131:30
gz: 10:55 + 117:38 = 128:33
Compared to bz2, gz saves... 2% on the overall time. As a conclusion, I
think we can plain discard the argument "I need .gz because my machine
is slow" from now on. It simply doesn't hold.
--
Jean Delvare
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-02-13 17:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-02-11 18:36 XZ Migration discussion J.H.
2010-02-11 19:44 ` david
2010-02-11 19:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-12 0:14 ` [kernel.org mirrors] " Carlos Carvalho
2010-02-11 20:22 ` [kernel.org users] " Willy Tarreau
2010-02-11 20:51 ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-11 22:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-12 14:35 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-13 17:10 ` Jean Delvare [this message]
2010-02-13 18:49 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-02-13 19:30 ` Randy Dunlap
2010-02-16 14:55 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-02-13 23:28 ` Stefan Richter
2010-02-14 9:07 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-13 23:52 ` Phillip Lougher
2010-02-14 9:23 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-14 9:33 ` Justin P. Mattock
2010-02-14 9:49 ` Willy Tarreau
2010-02-14 12:43 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-15 21:31 ` James Cloos
2010-02-17 5:40 ` Willy Tarreau
2010-02-17 5:54 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-17 10:22 ` Petri Kaukasoina
2010-02-17 10:25 ` Petri Kaukasoina
2010-02-14 9:56 ` Andi Kleen
2010-02-18 23:59 ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-02-14 10:16 ` Lasse Collin
2010-02-12 14:01 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-12 15:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-02-12 19:02 ` J.H.
2010-02-12 19:23 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-12 23:07 ` Willy Tarreau
2010-02-13 6:20 ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-13 10:06 ` Stefan Richter
2010-02-13 10:21 ` Stefan Richter
2010-02-14 9:56 ` Lasse Collin
2010-02-13 8:17 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-13 9:59 ` Stefan Richter
2010-02-13 10:18 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-13 21:37 ` [kernel] " Mr. James W. Laferriere
2010-02-13 22:39 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2010-02-15 19:33 ` [kernel.org users] [kernel] " Steve French
2010-02-16 9:16 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2010-02-16 15:13 ` J.H.
2010-02-14 17:13 ` [kernel.org users] " Pavel Machek
2010-02-14 17:33 ` Stefan Richter
2010-02-14 20:51 ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-15 8:48 ` Stefan Richter
2010-02-15 23:32 ` Tom Rini
2010-02-16 8:21 ` Stefan Richter
2010-02-14 17:07 ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-14 18:39 ` Stefan Richter
2010-02-14 21:04 ` david
2010-02-14 21:32 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-14 18:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-14 19:08 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-15 15:15 ` tytso
2010-02-16 15:29 ` J.H.
2010-02-16 16:03 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-17 1:36 ` David Rees
2010-02-16 14:00 ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-19 0:08 ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-02-19 4:38 ` J.H.
2010-02-12 15:25 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-02-12 16:11 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-12 16:30 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-02-12 16:44 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-12 20:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-02-12 21:16 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-02-16 15:39 ` ketchup was " Pavel Machek
2010-02-16 16:17 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-02-16 16:27 ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-21 13:53 ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-21 14:26 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-21 19:28 ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-22 18:59 ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-23 13:14 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-02-23 20:32 ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-12 19:02 ` Phillip Lougher
2010-02-12 19:32 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-12 19:57 ` Phillip Lougher
2010-02-12 21:59 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-12 23:30 ` Phillip Lougher
2010-02-12 23:39 ` Phillip Lougher
2010-02-13 7:31 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-13 22:37 ` Phillip Lougher
2010-02-14 9:32 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-14 9:53 ` Justin P. Mattock
[not found] ` <20100212223547.GN5186@tux>
2010-02-13 7:20 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-12 19:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-12 20:25 ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-02-12 21:54 ` Greg KH
2010-02-12 21:58 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-02-14 14:49 ` Harald Arnesen
2010-02-14 18:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-12 20:31 ` [kernel.org mirrors] " Sleddens, J.P.G.
2010-02-12 22:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-12 23:14 ` [kernel.org users] [kernel.org mirrors] " Willy Tarreau
2010-02-13 7:42 ` [kernel.org users] " Tony Luck
2010-02-13 8:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-13 8:53 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-14 5:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <987664A83D2D224EAE907B061CE93D53123E0ED5@orsmsx505.amr.corp.intel.com>
2010-02-17 0:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-14 18:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-02-14 22:27 ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-02-15 16:15 ` Jean Delvare
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