From: Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
To: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>,
Michael Evans <mjevans1983@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org,
Nick Bowler <nbowler@elliptictech.com>
Subject: Re: Linux mdadm superblock question.
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 23:18:33 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201002162318.33950.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100216220020.GA1036@emergent.ellipticsemi.com>
On Dienstag 16 Februar 2010, Nick Bowler wrote:
> On 22:06 Tue 16 Feb , Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > On Dienstag 16 Februar 2010, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> > > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > > > On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, you wrote:
> > > >> In other words, 'auto-detection' for 1.x format devices is using an
> > > >> initrd/initramfs.
> > > >
> > > > which makes 1.x format useless for everybody who does not want to
> > > > deal with initrd/initramfs.
> > >
> > > You make this sound like some major big deal. are you running your own
> > > distribution? In most cases mkinitrd does the right thing when you
> > > "make install" the kernel, and if you are doing something in the build
> > > so complex that it needs options, you really should understand the
> > > options and be sure you're doing what you want.
> > >
> > > Generally this involves preloading a module or two, and if you need it
> > > every time you probably should have built it in, anyway.
> > >
> > > My opinion...
> >
> > I am running my own kernels - and of course everything that is needed to
> > boot and get the basic system up is built in. Why should I make the disk
> > drivers modules?
> > That does not make sense.
>
> I agree that it makes little sense to make something a module when you
> can't unload it anyway, but...
>
> > And the reason is simple: even when the system is completely fucked up, I
> > want a kernel that is able to boot until init=/bin/bb takes over.
>
> I put a complete set of recovery tools into my initramfses so that when
> the system is completely fucked up, I have a kernel that is able to boot
> until rdinit=/bin/zsh (or /bin/bb, if you prefer) takes over.
>
> This has the added advantage of working when the root filesystem cannot
> be mounted at all: a scenario which does not seem too far-fetched when
> the filesystem is located on a raid array.
and what do you do if you have to boot from a cd/usb stick and need to access
the raid?
Simple with auto assembling. Not so much without.
Glück Auf,
Volker
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-02-16 22:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-02-14 1:51 Linux mdadm superblock question Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-14 4:02 ` Michael Evans
2010-02-14 7:21 ` david
2010-02-14 8:38 ` Michael Evans
2010-02-14 18:40 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-14 18:53 ` John Robinson
2010-02-14 21:16 ` Gabor Gombas
2010-02-16 17:18 ` Bill Davidsen
2010-02-16 21:06 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-16 22:00 ` Nick Bowler
2010-02-16 22:18 ` Volker Armin Hemmann [this message]
2010-02-17 14:25 ` Nick Bowler
2010-02-18 9:27 ` Ian Dall
2010-02-17 1:03 ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2010-02-17 2:01 ` Neil Brown
2010-02-17 2:38 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-17 23:15 ` Neil Brown
2010-02-17 6:34 ` Kyle Moffett
2010-02-17 9:38 ` Rudy Zijlstra
2010-02-17 13:26 ` Frans Pop
2010-02-17 20:54 ` Gabor Gombas
2010-02-17 21:29 ` Frans Pop
2010-02-18 3:40 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-02-17 16:22 ` Kyle Moffett
2010-02-17 17:41 ` david
2010-02-17 18:10 ` Nick Bowler
2010-02-17 18:27 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-17 18:37 ` Nick Bowler
2010-02-17 18:41 ` david
2010-02-17 18:51 ` Nick Bowler
2010-02-17 21:17 ` david
2010-02-17 21:37 ` Nick Bowler
2010-02-17 22:21 ` david
2010-02-17 22:29 ` boot times, not mdadm (was: Linux mdadm superblock question.) martin f krafft
2010-02-17 23:24 ` (boot time consequences of) Linux mdadm superblock question Neil Brown
2010-02-17 23:50 ` martin f krafft
2010-02-18 2:58 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2010-02-18 3:26 ` martin f krafft
2010-02-17 18:46 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-17 22:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-18 3:33 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-02-18 14:12 ` Nick Bowler
2010-02-19 9:04 ` Michael Evans
2010-02-14 19:34 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2010-02-14 20:07 ` Michael Evans
2010-02-14 21:14 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2010-02-14 20:47 ` Asdo
2010-02-14 21:26 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2010-02-14 21:28 ` Gabor Gombas
2010-02-15 9:08 ` martin f krafft
[not found] ` <201002142013.24922.volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
[not found] ` <4B7AAB8D.9030009@anonymous.org.uk>
2010-02-16 14:37 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-16 17:23 ` John Robinson
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2010-02-16 21:10 ` Bodo Eggert
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2010-02-11 23:00 Justin Piszcz
2010-02-12 1:52 ` Michael Evans
2010-02-13 19:58 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-13 20:07 ` Justin Piszcz
2010-02-13 20:49 ` david
2010-02-13 21:07 ` Michael Evans
2010-02-13 21:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-14 20:25 ` Asdo
2010-02-14 21:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-14 21:34 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2010-02-14 23:20 ` Rudy Zijlstra
2010-02-15 3:40 ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2010-02-16 0:27 ` Neil Brown
2010-02-16 1:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-16 3:18 ` david
2010-02-16 4:42 ` John Robinson
2010-02-16 7:02 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-16 8:46 ` Rudy Zijlstra
2010-02-16 17:05 ` Bill Davidsen
2010-02-16 23:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-16 3:40 ` CaT
2010-02-13 6:42 ` martin f krafft
2010-02-16 0:50 ` Neil Brown
2010-02-16 13:14 ` Justin Piszcz
2010-02-17 23:11 ` Neil Brown
2010-02-16 17:24 ` Bill Davidsen
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