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From: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Maxim Levitsky <maximlevitsky@gmail.com>,
	linux-pm <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] Is it supposed to be ok to call del_gendisk while userspace is frozen?
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:33:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100223123321.GA1025@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1002161126340.1281-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>

On Tue, Feb 16 2010, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Feb 2010, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> 
> > On Monday 15 February 2010, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 15:29 +0200, Maxim Levitsky wrote: 
> > > > I noticed that currently calling del_gendisk leads to sure deadlock if
> > > > attemped from .suspend or .resume functions.
> > 
> > Well, it shouldn't be called from there, then.
> 
> Even if drivers avoid calling it from within suspend methods, they have
> to be able to call it from within resume methods.  After all, the
> resume method may find that the disk's device has vanished.

del_gendisk() needs process context at least, since it'll sleep (not
just for sync/invalidate, but other parts of the destruction as well).

> > > > Something like that:
> > > > 
> > > > [<ffffffff8106620a>] ? prepare_to_wait+0x2a/0x90
> > > > [<ffffffff810790bd>] ? trace_hardirqs_on+0xd/0x10
> > > > [<ffffffff8140db12>] ? _raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore+0x42/0x80
> > > > [<ffffffff8112a390>] ? bdi_sched_wait+0x0/0x20
> > > > [<ffffffff8112a39e>] bdi_sched_wait+0xe/0x20
> > > > [<ffffffff8140af6f>] __wait_on_bit+0x5f/0x90
> > > > [<ffffffff8112a390>] ? bdi_sched_wait+0x0/0x20
> > > > [<ffffffff8140b018>] out_of_line_wait_on_bit+0x78/0x90
> > > > [<ffffffff81065fd0>] ? wake_bit_function+0x0/0x40
> > > > [<ffffffff8112a2d3>] ? bdi_queue_work+0xa3/0xe0
> > > > [<ffffffff8112a37f>] bdi_sync_writeback+0x6f/0x80
> > > > [<ffffffff8112a3d2>] sync_inodes_sb+0x22/0x120
> > > > [<ffffffff8112f1d2>] __sync_filesystem+0x82/0x90
> > > > [<ffffffff8112f3db>] sync_filesystem+0x4b/0x70
> > > > [<ffffffff811391de>] fsync_bdev+0x2e/0x60
> > > > [<ffffffff812226be>] invalidate_partition+0x2e/0x50
> > > > [<ffffffff8116b92f>] del_gendisk+0x3f/0x140
> > > > [<ffffffffa00c0233>] mmc_blk_remove+0x33/0x60 [mmc_block]
> > > > [<ffffffff81338977>] mmc_bus_remove+0x17/0x20
> > > > [<ffffffff812ce746>] __device_release_driver+0x66/0xc0
> > > > [<ffffffff812ce89d>] device_release_driver+0x2d/0x40
> > > > [<ffffffff812cd9b5>] bus_remove_device+0xb5/0x120
> > > > [<ffffffff812cb46f>] device_del+0x12f/0x1a0
> > > > [<ffffffff81338a5b>] mmc_remove_card+0x5b/0x90
> > > > [<ffffffff8133ac27>] mmc_sd_remove+0x27/0x50
> > > > [<ffffffff81337d8c>] mmc_resume_host+0x10c/0x140
> > > > [<ffffffffa00850e9>] sdhci_resume_host+0x69/0xa0 [sdhci]
> > > > [<ffffffffa0bdc39e>] sdhci_pci_resume+0x8e/0xb0 [sdhci_pci]
> > > > 
> > > > bdi_queue_work seems to be the problem.
> > > > 
> > > > Some device drivers need to remove their cards logically in .suspend,
> > > > because the card is removable, and can be changed while system is
> > > > suspended.
> > 
> > I don't know how to resolve this right now.
> 
> This is a matter for Jens.  Is the bdi writeback task freezable?  If it
> is, should it be made unfreezable?

I'm not a big expect on what tasks should be freezable or not. As it
stands, the writeback tasks will attempt to freeze and thaw with the
system. I guess that screws the sync from resume call, since it's not
running and the sync will wait for it to retrieve and finish that work
item.

To the suspend experts - can we safely mark the writeback tasks as
non-freezable?

-- 
Jens Axboe


  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-02-23 12:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-13 13:29 Is it supposed to be ok to call del_gendisk while userspace is frozen? Maxim Levitsky
2010-02-15 16:00 ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-02-15 21:04   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-02-16 16:27     ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-02-20 22:22       ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-02-23 12:33       ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2010-02-23 15:29         ` Alan Stern
2010-02-23 15:58           ` Jens Axboe
2010-02-23 16:33             ` Alan Stern
2010-02-23 22:16               ` Jens Axboe
2010-02-24 15:59                 ` Alan Stern
2010-02-24 19:12                   ` Jens Axboe
2010-02-24 20:19                     ` Alan Stern
2010-02-23 16:42             ` Testing for dirty buffers on a block device Alan Stern
2010-02-23 22:13               ` Jens Axboe
2010-02-24 15:51                 ` Alan Stern
2010-02-24 19:09                   ` Jens Axboe
2010-02-24 20:09                     ` Alan Stern
2010-02-25  8:20                       ` Jens Axboe
2010-02-25 22:19                         ` Dave Chinner
2010-03-01  6:35           ` [linux-pm] Is it supposed to be ok to call del_gendisk while userspace is frozen? Pavel Machek
2010-03-01 15:23             ` Alan Stern
2010-03-03 21:50               ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-03 22:23                 ` Alan Stern
2010-03-04  0:23                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-04  2:48                     ` Alan Stern
2010-03-04 19:26                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-04 19:36                         ` Alan Stern
2010-03-04 20:04                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-04 20:15                         ` Pavel Machek
2010-04-22 23:40                           ` Matt Reimer
2010-04-23  5:17                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-11 23:55                               ` Matt Reimer
2010-05-12 14:50                                 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-13 21:44                                   ` Matt Reimer
2010-05-13 21:54                                     ` Alan Stern
2010-05-13 22:20                                       ` Matt Reimer
2010-05-13 22:47                                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-05-15  2:37                                           ` Alan Stern
2010-05-15  2:53                                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-05-16 19:35                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-15  2:32                                         ` Alan Stern
2010-05-15 20:30                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-16  7:49                                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-05-16 19:38                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-16 21:32                                                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-05-17  2:22                                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-05-17  7:45                                                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-05-17 20:35                                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-17 22:51                                                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-05-18 19:43                                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 20:06                                                             ` Alan Stern
2010-05-24 19:02                                                           ` Pavel Machek
2010-05-24 21:21                                                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-04 13:53                   ` Pavel Machek
2010-06-04 11:20                     ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-04 14:59                       ` Alan Stern
2010-06-04 15:19                         ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-04 17:52                           ` Alan Stern

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