From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk
Cc: mingo@elte.hu, skeggsb@gmail.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
airlied@gmail.com, airlied@linux.ie,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org,
dri-devel@lists.sf.net
Subject: Re: [git pull] drm request 3
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 06:37:18 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100305.063718.211238119.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100305123834.0d9c6277@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:38:34 +0000
>> The conclusion is crystal clear, breaking an ABI via a "flag day"
>> cleanup/feature/etc is:
>
> Ingo go read the staging Kconfig. It's crystal clear, and lots of vendor
> junk that is in there being cleaned up it would be *insane* to keep their
> old APIs
>
> See there's a bigger offence than breaking an ABI - its called not RTFM.
All of this RTFM and what directory the noveau driver is sitting in is
entirely irrelevant Alan.
If it effects such a large number of people, which this noveau thing
does, it's entirely relevant to everyone. And the way it's breaking
and making kernel development difficult for so many people matters to
us.
It's about the tester base, and this breakage shrinks the tester base
considerably.
Or do you want the kernel tested by less people?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-05 14:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 147+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-02 23:56 [git pull] drm request 3 Dave Airlie
2010-03-04 18:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 18:27 ` Matt Turner
2010-03-04 18:36 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-04 18:39 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-04 18:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 18:56 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-04 19:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 19:25 ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-04 20:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 22:06 ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-05 0:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 0:28 ` Ben Skeggs
2010-03-05 0:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 0:56 ` Luc Verhaegen
2010-03-05 1:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 1:16 ` Luc Verhaegen
2010-03-05 1:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 1:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 1:28 ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-05 5:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 5:22 ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-05 5:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 5:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 1:19 ` Upstream first policy Kyle McMartin
2010-03-05 1:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 2:00 ` [git pull] drm request 3 Tony Luck
2010-03-05 20:34 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-03-05 6:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-05 7:06 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-03-05 7:17 ` "C. Bergström"
2010-03-05 7:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-05 15:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 7:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-05 7:58 ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-05 8:16 ` Stephane Marchesin
2010-03-05 10:00 ` Making Xorg easier to test (was Re: [git pull] drm request 3) Carlos R. Mafra
2010-03-05 12:54 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-03-05 15:22 ` Matt Turner
2010-03-05 15:41 ` Daniel Stone
2010-03-05 15:49 ` Making Xorg easier to test David Miller
2010-03-05 16:03 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 16:06 ` Daniel Stone
2010-03-05 17:50 ` Xavier Bestel
2010-03-05 17:54 ` David Miller
2010-03-05 18:02 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-05 18:05 ` David Miller
2010-03-05 15:53 ` Making Xorg easier to test (was Re: [git pull] drm request 3) Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 16:11 ` Daniel Stone
2010-03-05 16:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-08 8:57 ` Daniel Stone
2010-03-05 16:26 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-05 13:55 ` [git pull] drm request 3 Luc Verhaegen
2010-03-05 16:21 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-05 12:38 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 14:37 ` David Miller [this message]
2010-03-05 14:46 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-03-05 18:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-05 15:09 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 15:11 ` David Miller
2010-03-05 15:17 ` Daniel Stone
2010-03-05 15:26 ` David Miller
2010-03-05 15:40 ` Daniel Stone
2010-03-05 15:48 ` David Miller
2010-03-05 16:02 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 16:05 ` David Miller
2010-03-05 17:58 ` Younes Manton
2010-03-05 16:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 16:23 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 16:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 17:04 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 17:19 ` tytso
2010-03-05 16:04 ` Daniel Stone
2010-03-05 16:06 ` David Miller
2010-03-05 16:31 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 17:36 ` Jerome Glisse
2010-03-05 16:46 ` tytso
2010-03-05 19:38 ` Corbin Simpson
2010-03-05 21:01 ` Corbin Simpson
2010-03-05 21:51 ` tytso
2010-03-05 23:50 ` Tilman Schmidt
2010-03-05 17:23 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <hmra63$898$1@xyzzy.farnsworth.org>
2010-03-06 6:17 ` Dale Farnsworth
2010-03-06 17:21 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-03-05 15:56 ` Luca Barbieri
2010-03-05 16:13 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 16:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 16:38 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 20:59 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-03-05 16:25 ` Luca Barbieri
2010-03-05 15:42 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 16:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 17:42 ` Jeff Garzik
2010-03-05 19:11 ` Justin P. mattock
2010-03-04 19:33 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-04 19:12 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-03-04 18:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 18:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 18:50 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-03-04 18:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 19:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 19:04 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-03-04 19:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 19:25 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-03-04 19:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 19:53 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-03-04 20:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 20:46 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-03-04 20:57 ` Stephane Marchesin
2010-03-04 22:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 23:03 ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-04 23:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 23:27 ` Michel Dänzer
2010-03-04 23:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 23:35 ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-04 23:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 0:24 ` Ed Tomlinson
2010-03-05 0:24 ` Kyle McMartin
2010-03-04 23:28 ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-04 23:05 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-05 12:26 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-04 22:28 ` Adam Jackson
2010-03-04 23:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 23:14 ` Stephane Marchesin
2010-03-05 12:29 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 16:18 ` Adam Jackson
2010-03-04 19:32 ` Jeff Garzik
2010-03-04 22:18 ` Adam Jackson
2010-03-04 22:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2010-03-04 22:59 ` Adam Jackson
2010-03-05 11:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2010-03-05 15:46 ` Adam Jackson
2010-03-05 1:47 ` Robert Hancock
2010-03-05 12:21 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 19:30 ` Eric Anholt
2010-03-05 20:39 ` Luca Barbieri
2010-03-06 15:23 ` Sergio Monteiro Basto
2010-03-06 17:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-06 19:06 ` Sergio Monteiro Basto
2010-03-06 19:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-06 20:49 ` tytso
2010-03-06 20:52 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-06 22:38 ` tytso
2010-03-04 21:21 ` Maarten Maathuis
2010-03-04 21:22 ` Maarten Maathuis
2010-03-04 21:27 ` Maarten Maathuis
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2010-03-05 22:18 Jonas Ritz
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