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From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk
Cc: mingo@elte.hu, skeggsb@gmail.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	airlied@gmail.com, airlied@linux.ie,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org,
	dri-devel@lists.sf.net
Subject: Re: [git pull] drm request 3
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 07:11:39 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100305.071139.27008118.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100305150934.0c0f83ef@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>

From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:09:34 +0000

> I think you miss a bigger picture ?
> 
> If Fedora hadn't merged it then it wouldn't have gotten to the state of
> usability it had. If Fedora hadn't merged it then several hundred
> thousand users wouldn't have had useful working machines.

I think Fedora were right to merge it, and I think it was proper to
merge it into the upstream kernel.

But I also think the large size of that userbase should have been
respected by "doing the right thing" here, and that means not making
it so hard for Fedora users to use upstream kernels out of the box.

Making the "sandbox" claim cuts both ways Alan.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-05 15:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 147+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-02 23:56 [git pull] drm request 3 Dave Airlie
2010-03-04 18:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 18:27   ` Matt Turner
2010-03-04 18:36   ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-04 18:39     ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-04 18:51       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 18:56         ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-04 19:08           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 19:25             ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-04 20:01               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 22:06                 ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-05  0:08                   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05  0:28                     ` Ben Skeggs
2010-03-05  0:41                       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05  0:56                         ` Luc Verhaegen
2010-03-05  1:08                           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05  1:16                             ` Luc Verhaegen
2010-03-05  1:22                               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05  1:20                             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05  1:28                               ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-05  5:17                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05  5:22                                   ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-05  5:30                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05  5:42                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05  1:19                         ` Upstream first policy Kyle McMartin
2010-03-05  1:28                           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05  2:00                         ` [git pull] drm request 3 Tony Luck
2010-03-05 20:34                         ` Felipe Contreras
2010-03-05  6:49                       ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-05  7:06                         ` Pekka Enberg
2010-03-05  7:17                           ` "C. Bergström"
2010-03-05  7:53                             ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-05 15:18                             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05  7:44                           ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-05  7:58                             ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-05  8:16                             ` Stephane Marchesin
2010-03-05 10:00                             ` Making Xorg easier to test (was Re: [git pull] drm request 3) Carlos R. Mafra
2010-03-05 12:54                               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-03-05 15:22                               ` Matt Turner
2010-03-05 15:41                                 ` Daniel Stone
2010-03-05 15:49                                   ` Making Xorg easier to test David Miller
2010-03-05 16:03                                     ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 16:06                                     ` Daniel Stone
2010-03-05 17:50                                     ` Xavier Bestel
2010-03-05 17:54                                       ` David Miller
2010-03-05 18:02                                         ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-05 18:05                                           ` David Miller
2010-03-05 15:53                               ` Making Xorg easier to test (was Re: [git pull] drm request 3) Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 16:11                                 ` Daniel Stone
2010-03-05 16:30                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-08  8:57                                     ` Daniel Stone
2010-03-05 16:26                                 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-05 13:55                             ` [git pull] drm request 3 Luc Verhaegen
2010-03-05 16:21                             ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-05 12:38                         ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 14:37                           ` David Miller
2010-03-05 14:46                             ` Mike Galbraith
2010-03-05 18:05                               ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-05 15:09                             ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 15:11                               ` David Miller [this message]
2010-03-05 15:17                             ` Daniel Stone
2010-03-05 15:26                               ` David Miller
2010-03-05 15:40                                 ` Daniel Stone
2010-03-05 15:48                                   ` David Miller
2010-03-05 16:02                                     ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 16:05                                       ` David Miller
2010-03-05 17:58                                         ` Younes Manton
2010-03-05 16:13                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 16:23                                         ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 16:44                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 17:04                                             ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 17:19                                               ` tytso
2010-03-05 16:04                                     ` Daniel Stone
2010-03-05 16:06                                       ` David Miller
2010-03-05 16:31                                         ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 17:36                                           ` Jerome Glisse
2010-03-05 16:46                                       ` tytso
2010-03-05 19:38                                         ` Corbin Simpson
2010-03-05 21:01                                           ` Corbin Simpson
2010-03-05 21:51                                           ` tytso
2010-03-05 23:50                                             ` Tilman Schmidt
2010-03-05 17:23                                       ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                                       ` <hmra63$898$1@xyzzy.farnsworth.org>
2010-03-06  6:17                                         ` Dale Farnsworth
2010-03-06 17:21                                       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-03-05 15:56                                   ` Luca Barbieri
2010-03-05 16:13                                     ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 16:19                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 16:38                                         ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 20:59                                         ` Felipe Contreras
2010-03-05 16:25                                       ` Luca Barbieri
2010-03-05 15:42                                 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 16:07                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 17:42                               ` Jeff Garzik
2010-03-05 19:11                                 ` Justin P. mattock
2010-03-04 19:33             ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-04 19:12         ` Matthew Garrett
2010-03-04 18:45     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 18:43   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 18:50     ` Matthew Garrett
2010-03-04 18:55       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 19:01         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 19:04         ` Matthew Garrett
2010-03-04 19:14           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 19:25             ` Matthew Garrett
2010-03-04 19:41               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 19:53                 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-03-04 20:07                   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 20:46                     ` Matthew Garrett
2010-03-04 20:57                     ` Stephane Marchesin
2010-03-04 22:54                       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 23:03                         ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-04 23:19                           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 23:27                             ` Michel Dänzer
2010-03-04 23:28                             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 23:35                               ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-04 23:53                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05  0:24                                   ` Ed Tomlinson
2010-03-05  0:24                                   ` Kyle McMartin
2010-03-04 23:28                             ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-04 23:05                         ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-05 12:26                         ` Alan Cox
2010-03-04 22:28             ` Adam Jackson
2010-03-04 23:03               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 23:14                 ` Stephane Marchesin
2010-03-05 12:29                 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 16:18                 ` Adam Jackson
2010-03-04 19:32           ` Jeff Garzik
2010-03-04 22:18             ` Adam Jackson
2010-03-04 22:21               ` Jeff Garzik
2010-03-04 22:59                 ` Adam Jackson
2010-03-05 11:24                   ` Jeff Garzik
2010-03-05 15:46                     ` Adam Jackson
2010-03-05  1:47             ` Robert Hancock
2010-03-05 12:21             ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 19:30               ` Eric Anholt
2010-03-05 20:39                 ` Luca Barbieri
2010-03-06 15:23     ` Sergio Monteiro Basto
2010-03-06 17:40       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-06 19:06         ` Sergio Monteiro Basto
2010-03-06 19:28           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-06 20:49             ` tytso
2010-03-06 20:52               ` Alan Cox
2010-03-06 22:38                 ` tytso
2010-03-04 21:21   ` Maarten Maathuis
2010-03-04 21:22     ` Maarten Maathuis
2010-03-04 21:27   ` Maarten Maathuis
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-03-05 22:18 Jonas Ritz

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