From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753981Ab0CEPlr (ORCPT ); Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:41:47 -0500 Received: from light.bluelinux.co.uk ([195.10.223.138]:40247 "EHLO light.bluelinux.co.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752640Ab0CEPlq (ORCPT ); Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:41:46 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 17:41:43 +0200 From: Daniel Stone To: Matt Turner Cc: "Carlos R. Mafra" , Ben Skeggs , Dave Airlie , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jesse Barnes , Pekka Enberg , dri-devel@lists.sf.net, Ingo Molnar , Linus Torvalds Subject: Re: Making Xorg easier to test (was Re: [git pull] drm request 3) Message-ID: <20100305154143.GD2505@tempa> Mail-Followup-To: Daniel Stone , Matt Turner , "Carlos R. Mafra" , Ben Skeggs , Dave Airlie , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jesse Barnes , Pekka Enberg , dri-devel@lists.sf.net, Ingo Molnar , Linus Torvalds References: <21d7e9971003041125x1aee3b3ew1e407ca6695e10fc@mail.gmail.com> <21d7e9971003041406n53d9cae0h53374abf3dca494e@mail.gmail.com> <1267748927.3496.6.camel@nisroch> <20100305064955.GA6453@elte.hu> <84144f021003042306w2e017efbva2be364c1c4980a7@mail.gmail.com> <20100305074407.GC19703@elte.hu> <20100305100030.GA4970@Pilar.aei.mpg.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Qbvjkv9qwOGw/5Fx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --Qbvjkv9qwOGw/5Fx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 10:22:27AM -0500, Matt Turner wrote: > On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 5:00 AM, Carlos R. Mafra wrot= e: > > Why can't there be a 'Linus Torvalds' for Xorg accepting patches from v= arious > > maintainers and keeping the whole thing tied up? Why can't it mimic the > > 'make menuconfig' way of selecting what to compile to have the guarante= e that > > the whole thing will simply work nicely together? >=20 > You must not follow X development at all. His name is Keith Packard. Except that if you look at X lately, you'll realise that we do not have the resources to even come close to being able to do this properly. We struggle to support what we have already today, and we've still been hoping to create a real API, instead of the sad joke that is /usr/include/xorg/*.h, for the last few years. But we don't have enough people (or at least enough people who aren't busy with the other parts of their day jobs, or kids, or burnout, or whatever) to do it. I understand that you guys are upset about this, so maybe you'd like to donate, say, 10% of your developer base to help out? That'd be pretty ace. Cheers, Daniel --Qbvjkv9qwOGw/5Fx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkuRJjcACgkQUVYB1rKAgJTsagCglUyqTapwHyIbBKdm8u6DjKdE SUEAnRKY8X1t/zhywgNQNJ8H9bD80ZIA =aAAj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Qbvjkv9qwOGw/5Fx--