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From: Lennart Poettering <mzxreary@0pointer.de>
To: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Cc: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Americo Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Kyle McMartin <kyle@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] exit: PR_SET_ANCHOR for marking processes as reapers for  	child processes
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 01:24:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100306002414.GJ28657@tango.0pointer.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100305191816.5EC8ACC@magilla.sf.frob.com>

On Fri, 05.03.10 11:18, Roland McGrath (roland@redhat.com) wrote:

> 
> > Oh, no. Actually getting the SIGCHILD is the needed feature here. A
> > process who sets the ANCHOR flag is surely expected to handle these
> > signals. It's all about a user "init-like" process" that can do
> > similar things for a logged-in user what /sbin/init can to for the
> > system. So, it's all about 1.), and 3.) is a nice side-effect, but not
> > the motivation to do this.
> 
> Please explain this more explicitly.  What the actual init does with
> miscellaneous reparented processes is just reap them and ignore their
> status.  What do you intend an "anchor" process to do other than that?

It could use the grandchildren's SIGCHLDs for various task management
issues: i.e. watching double-forking daemons, catch SIGSEGVS so that you
can crosslink that service state to systems like abrt. Or even just that
you can implement a safe restarting logic: i.e. so that we can easily
wait that a process and its children are fully dead before we restart
the service.

Lennart

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Lennart Poettering                        Red Hat, Inc.
lennart [at] poettering [dot] net
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-06  0:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-02 12:04 [PATCH] exit: PR_SET_ANCHOR for marking processes as reapers for child processes Lennart Poettering
2010-02-03  8:24 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-03  9:53   ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-03 15:31 ` Américo Wang
2010-02-03 17:49   ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-05  9:54     ` Américo Wang
2010-02-11 10:21       ` Kay Sievers
2010-02-04 15:42 ` Kay Sievers
2010-02-04 20:59   ` Kay Sievers
2010-03-04 14:08 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-03-04 22:14   ` Roland McGrath
2010-03-05 18:51     ` Kay Sievers
2010-03-05 19:18       ` Roland McGrath
2010-03-06  0:24         ` Lennart Poettering [this message]
2010-03-09  0:45           ` Ray Lee
2010-03-09 13:19             ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-03-06  0:20     ` Lennart Poettering
2010-03-08 23:11       ` Roland McGrath
2010-03-05  4:47   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-05 18:55     ` Kay Sievers
2010-03-06  0:16   ` Lennart Poettering
2010-03-11  4:14     ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-03-11  7:56       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-12-20 14:26 ` Scott James Remnant
2010-12-20 14:51   ` Kay Sievers
2010-12-21  9:56   ` Lennart Poettering
2010-12-21 12:05     ` Scott James Remnant
2010-12-23 15:44       ` Lennart Poettering
2010-12-23 16:00         ` Scott James Remnant

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