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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Kyle McMartin <kyle@mcmartin.ca>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Upstream first policy
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:29:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100309072938.GA6137@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1003081132370.3989@localhost.localdomain>


* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Alan Cox wrote:
> > 
> > man restorecond
> 
> I know. I also sometimes sit through minutes of "let's relabel the system, 
> because you've booted a kernel without selinux support".

I've had selinux relabeling wait times of an hour or two too, on a 
sufficiently large filesystem.

I think this hurts security far more than anything else, because it causes 
people to actually _turn off the whole thing_ - so we will have less and less 
security in the end.

( To use the obligatory fire door analogy: we should prefer a one inch thick 
  fire door that opens and closes fully automated to a five inches thick fire 
  door that people keep always-open with a chair. )

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-09  7:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-07 21:23 Upstream first policy James Morris
2010-03-07 21:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-07 21:36   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-08  9:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-08 17:30   ` Alan Cox
2010-03-08 18:08     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-08 18:45       ` Al Viro
2010-03-08 18:53         ` Al Viro
2010-03-08 18:59         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-08 19:15           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-08 19:17           ` Alan Cox
2010-03-08 19:32             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-09  0:48               ` Kyle McMartin
2010-03-08 21:20             ` Chris Adams
2010-03-08 19:18           ` Al Viro
2010-03-09  1:18           ` Luca Barbieri
2010-03-09  1:25             ` Al Viro
2010-03-09  1:51               ` Luca Barbieri
2010-03-09  1:55                 ` Al Viro
2010-03-09  2:09                   ` Luca Barbieri
2010-03-08 19:08       ` Alan Cox
2010-03-08 19:18         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-08 19:27           ` Alan Cox
2010-03-08 19:34             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-09  7:29               ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2010-03-09  8:46                 ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-09 14:58                   ` Ulrich Drepper
2010-03-08 23:02           ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-03-08 23:18             ` Eric Paris
2010-03-09 15:16               ` Florian Mickler
2010-03-09 22:49             ` Alan Cox
2010-03-11  3:52               ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-03-08 22:12       ` Ulrich Drepper
2010-03-08 23:12         ` Eric Paris
2010-03-08 23:21           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-08 23:18       ` Rik van Riel
2010-03-08 23:37         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-08 23:51           ` Rik van Riel
2010-03-09  0:10             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-09  3:26               ` Casey Schaufler
2010-03-09  3:58                 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-09 13:09                   ` Samir Bellabes
2010-03-09  0:15           ` Al Viro
2010-03-09  0:48             ` Al Viro
2010-03-09  1:49               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-09  2:05                 ` Al Viro
2010-03-09  2:18                   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-23 13:59     ` Pavel Machek
     [not found] <elwcV-406-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <elHL4-42q-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <elP5U-6Ku-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <elPyV-7zE-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <elQbE-8ll-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <elQv0-vu-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <elQEG-Hn-33@gated-at.bofh.it>
2010-03-08 19:40           ` James Kosin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-03-04 18:39 [git pull] drm request 3 Jesse Barnes
2010-03-04 18:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 18:56   ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-04 19:08     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 19:25       ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-04 20:01         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 22:06           ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-05  0:08             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05  0:28               ` Ben Skeggs
2010-03-05  0:41                 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05  1:19                   ` Upstream first policy Kyle McMartin
2010-03-05  1:28                     ` Linus Torvalds

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