From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Markus Rechberger <mrechberger@gmail.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Subject: Re: USBFS Memory allocation Bug
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:55:20 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100310155519.GO4883@csn.ul.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1003101045030.1516-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:49:11AM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010, Mel Gorman wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:16:09AM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> > > On Wed, 10 Mar 2010, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 10:09:57PM +0100, Markus Rechberger wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I just stumbled around following issue:
> > > > >
> > > > > <SNIP to have one full message>
> > > > >
> > > > > [275835.491094] mediasrv: page allocation failure. order:6, mode:0x40d0
> > > >
> > > > This is massive. Why is usbdev_ioctl requiring an order-6 allocation?
> > > > Does it have the option to fall back to vmalloc() for example?
> > >
> > > We needed to implement an upper limit on the buffer size, and the value
> > > chosen was sufficient for 8 ms of data. There is no fallback to
> > > vmalloc().
> > >
> > > Of course, the mediasrv program could always make multiple smaller
> > > data submissions instead of a single big one.
> > >
> >
> > Is there any means for the driver to take the large request, break it up
> > into multiple smaller requests and submit them one at a time?
>
> In theory almost anything is possible. But it would be a big effort
> and not consistent with the way the rest of the driver works.
>
Then about the only other suggestion would be a mempool containing a small
number of largest-possible buffers that is enabled if there is no swap
available.
> > > > So, it's a high-order allocation but no swap is configured. As the
> > > > system has a big mix of both anonymous and file memory, it is likely it
> > > > was unable to find a large enough contiguous range of file-backed memory
> > > > it could discard. There is pretty much nothing the memory manager could
> > > > do here.
> > > >
> > > > FWIW, if swap was configured I'd think there was more the memory manager
> > > > could have done.
> > > >
> > > > Is usb falling back to vmalloc() or order-0 pages possible?
> > >
> > > No. It's not possible since the buffer has to be contiguous for DMA
> > > purposes (this is a requirement of the driver interface).
> > >
> >
> > Regrettably, there is not much the VM can do in this situation. Without
> > swap, it cannot magic up contiguous memory. If memory compaction gets
> > merged then it could do more but the risk of failure is still non-zero.
>
> Agreed. The best way to fix the allocation failure is to provide swap
> space.
>
Or a mempool so at least it can always make some forward progress.
Whether it is worth it or not depends on what happens the application
when this allocation fails.
--
Mel Gorman
Part-time Phd Student Linux Technology Center
University of Limerick IBM Dublin Software Lab
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-10 15:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-09 21:09 USBFS Memory allocation Bug Markus Rechberger
2010-03-09 22:31 ` Alan Stern
2010-03-09 23:32 ` Markus Rechberger
2010-03-10 3:13 ` Alan Stern
2010-03-10 9:33 ` Markus Rechberger
2010-03-10 15:04 ` Alan Stern
2010-03-10 13:57 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-10 15:16 ` Alan Stern
2010-03-10 15:21 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-10 15:49 ` Alan Stern
2010-03-10 15:55 ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2010-03-11 16:56 ` Alan Stern
2010-03-14 23:31 ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-15 9:36 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-15 13:57 ` Alan Stern
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