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From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Markus Rechberger <mrechberger@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Subject: Re: USBFS Memory allocation Bug
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 09:36:34 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100315093634.GF18274@csn.ul.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100314193114.619a2616.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 07:31:14PM -0400, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:56:22 -0500 (EST) Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 10 Mar 2010, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > 
> > > > > Is there any means for the driver to take the large request, break it up
> > > > > into multiple smaller requests and submit them one at a time?
> > > > 
> > > > In theory almost anything is possible.  But it would be a big effort
> > > > and not consistent with the way the rest of the driver works.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Then about the only other suggestion would be a mempool containing a small
> > > number of largest-possible buffers that is enabled if there is no swap
> > > available.
> > 
> > Considering that this is the first report I have heard about this sort 
> > of problem, and that adding swap space would probably fix it, I'm not 
> > inclined to make any changes.
> 
> Adding swap space is unlikely to help here.  For an order-6 allocation
> the page allocator will go into wtf-youre-kidding-me mode and won't
> even bother trying.
> 

It will try and make the allocation and probably enter direct reclaim
and do a lumpy reclaim for contiguous blocks. What it won't do is retry
as many times as an allocation order <= PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER.

> Asking the allocator for 2^6 physically contiguous pages is terribly
> unreliable and shouldn't be done by any kernel code which wants to be
> useful.
> 

This remains true. With swap, the high-order allocation attempt might succeed
many of the times but there will still be situations where it fails.

-- 
Mel Gorman
Part-time Phd Student                          Linux Technology Center
University of Limerick                         IBM Dublin Software Lab

  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-15  9:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-09 21:09 USBFS Memory allocation Bug Markus Rechberger
2010-03-09 22:31 ` Alan Stern
2010-03-09 23:32   ` Markus Rechberger
2010-03-10  3:13     ` Alan Stern
2010-03-10  9:33       ` Markus Rechberger
2010-03-10 15:04         ` Alan Stern
2010-03-10 13:57 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-10 15:16   ` Alan Stern
2010-03-10 15:21     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-10 15:49       ` Alan Stern
2010-03-10 15:55         ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-11 16:56           ` Alan Stern
2010-03-14 23:31             ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-15  9:36               ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2010-03-15 13:57               ` Alan Stern

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