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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: Hitoshi Mitake <mitake@dcl.info.waseda.ac.jp>,
	Jason Baron <jbaron@redhat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, h.mitake@gmail.com,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 00/11] lock monitor: Separate features related to lock
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:23:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100319012337.GA22095@nowhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100319010857.GC23020@Krystal>

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 09:08:57PM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > I sometimes wonder which trick between jmp optimization and hot patching
> > would be the best to optimize the tracepoints off-cases.
> > 
> > I should look more closely at the jmp optimization. I don't know if
> > it avoids to push the tracepoints parameters in the off case, in
> > which case it could be perhaps more efficient than hot patching,
> 
> yep, tracepoints with jump patching will branch over the whole stack setup in
> the off case, which is one of the good reasons for using this solution over
> patching only a call (leaving the stack setup in place).



Ok that's good to know. It's a pretty good argument against hot
patching in this particular case.


 
> Note that if the parameters include side-effects (such as a function call),
> these will be executed even when the tracepoint is disabled. This is why people
> should implement these calls with side-effects in the appropriate TRACE_EVENT
> fields.


Good to know too.
But this makes me curious. So it guarantees stack setup won't happen but
can't sort it out with functions as parameters or so?

I have no idea how this thing works. Please Cc me for the next batch,
this looks like a cool thing :)



> > although perhaps most of the time the given arguments are already in
> > registers because the traced function uses them for its own needs.
> > 
> > Also, adopting hot patching means the tracepoint calls would be
> > in a non-inlined separated function. The result would be probably
> > less i-cache footprint from the caller, and better for the off-case,
> > worse for the on-case. But tracing off-case is most important.
> > 
> > (Adding more people in Cc)
> > 
> 
> The idea has been discussed to add support in gcc to emit the code for an
> unlikely branch into a separate section, which does have the smaller cache-line
> footprint benefit your are talking about, but without the overhead of the extra
> out-of-line function call in the enabled case. I don't know how this work is
> advanced though. We had determined that the "asm goto" was an higher priority
> item.


Ok.

Thanks!


  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-19  1:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-14 10:38 [PATCH RFC 00/11] lock monitor: Separate features related to lock Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-14 10:38 ` [PATCH RFC 01/11] lock monitor: New subsystem for lock event hooking Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-14 10:38 ` [PATCH RFC 02/11] Adopt lockdep to lock monitor Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-14 10:38 ` [PATCH RFC 03/11] Adopt spinlock " Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-14 10:38 ` [PATCH RFC 04/11] Adopt rwlock " Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-14 10:38 ` [PATCH RFC 05/11] Adopt arch dependent rwsem " Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-14 10:38 ` [PATCH RFC 06/11] Adopt rwsem of x86 " Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-14 10:38 ` [PATCH RFC 07/11] Adopt the way of initializing semaphore " Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-14 10:38 ` [PATCH RFC 08/11] Adopt mutex " Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-14 10:38 ` [PATCH RFC 09/11] Adopt rcu_read_lock() " Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-14 10:38 ` [PATCH RFC 10/11] Adopt kernel/sched.c " Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-14 10:38 ` [PATCH RFC 11/11] Very dirty temporal solution for testing " Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-14 18:13 ` [PATCH RFC 00/11] lock monitor: Separate features related to lock Peter Zijlstra
2010-03-17  1:32   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-17  7:30     ` Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-17 15:39       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-18  5:49         ` Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-18 20:30           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-20  5:51             ` Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-23 15:45         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-03-17  9:52     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-17 13:59       ` Jason Baron
2010-03-18  5:59       ` Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-18 21:16         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-19  1:08           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-03-19  1:23             ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2010-03-19  1:36               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-03-19  2:27                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-19  2:40                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-03-19  3:06                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-19 12:56                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-03-19 16:00                         ` Jason Baron
2010-03-20  4:51                           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-20  4:46                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-20  5:56           ` Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-20  8:23             ` Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-21  9:49               ` Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-23 15:32               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-04  7:56                 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-17  1:47 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-17  7:33   ` Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-17  9:50     ` Ingo Molnar

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