From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
x86@kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
jesse.brandeburg@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Prevent nested interrupts when the IRQ stack is near overflowing v2
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:27:37 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100325162737.GA5276@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1003250842240.3721@i5.linux-foundation.org>
* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
[...]
>
> Now, it's also true that our IRQ infrastructure handlers _could_ be smarter,
> and make the whole problem less likely to happen.
>
> In particular, it's probably true that especially on modern hardware with
> multiple cores, and especially when you do _not_ have irq sharing (which is
> the common case these days for things like network drivers that can use
> MSI), we really would be better off having the irq disabled over the whole
> thing, and on some interrupt controllers it might even be worth it to do the
> old optimization of not masking-and-acking, but just acking.
Yes.
> But see above. This is _not_ something that a driver can do any more. They
> don't know whether the interrupt might end up being shared. Just blindly
> setting IRAF_DISABLED in a driver is _not_ the answer. But being smarter in
> the generic irq handler code might work.
>
> And then, what we could do, is to mark the drivers that absolutely _must_ be
> able to nest specially. Like the IDE driver when in PIO mode. Or maybe the
> SCSI drivers, if they still depend on that timer interrupt happening while
> they are busy.
I think the patch as posted solves a real problem, but also perpetuates a bad
situation.
At minimum we should print a (one-time) warning that some badness occured.
That would push us either in the direction of improving drivers, or towards
improving the generic code.
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-25 16:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-24 19:02 [PATCH] Prevent nested interrupts when the IRQ stack is near overflowing v2 Andi Kleen
2010-03-24 20:42 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-03-24 23:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-03-25 0:36 ` Andi Kleen
2010-03-25 1:46 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-03-25 9:37 ` Andi Kleen
2010-03-25 11:09 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-03-25 12:11 ` Andi Kleen
2010-03-25 13:17 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-03-25 13:32 ` Andi Kleen
2010-03-25 14:16 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-03-25 15:38 ` Andi Kleen
2010-03-25 16:06 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-25 16:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-25 16:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-25 16:27 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2010-03-25 16:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-25 18:27 ` Andi Kleen
2010-03-26 4:55 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-03-25 16:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-03-25 17:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-03-25 18:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-25 18:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-03-25 18:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-03-25 18:44 ` Andi Kleen
2010-03-25 19:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-25 18:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-25 19:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-25 19:42 ` David Miller
2010-03-25 20:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-26 3:33 ` David Miller
2010-03-25 20:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-25 20:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-26 6:10 ` Andi Kleen
2010-03-25 10:50 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-25 11:16 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-03-25 11:59 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-25 12:00 ` Andi Kleen
2010-03-25 11:57 ` Andi Kleen
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