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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/18] Allow different tracers to be compiled independently
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 20:09:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100326190907.GJ5188@nowhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100326002029.GH3145@quack.suse.cz>

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 01:20:29AM +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Tue 23-03-10 02:04:21, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 01:32:02AM +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
> > > 
> > >   Hi,
> > > 
> > >   currently, when one tracer is selected, most of tracepoints for other
> > > tracers also gets pulled into the kernel. So for example it's not possible
> > > to enable BLK_DEV_IO_TRACE without polluting slab allocation paths with
> > > tracepoint checks (see changelog of patch 01). This patch set adds a
> > > possibility for each set of trace points to be compile-enabled separately.
> > >   The first patch contains the necessary magic in linux/tracepoint.h. Other
> > > patches just tell tracing framework about correspoding config options
> > > and possibly introduce them if they did not exist before.
> > >   The patches in this patch set are actually completely independent so 
> > > they can be merged via respective subsystem trees. But changes are rather
> > > tiny so I don't expect much conflicts...
> > > 
> > > 								Honza
> > 
> > (Adding more people in Cc)
> > 
> > I don't know. Yeah this first looks like a good idea but once
> > CONFIG_EVENT_TRACING is enabled, each tracepoint is a lightweight
> > thing and induce a tiny overhead, probably hard to notice, and
> > this is going to be even more the case after the jmp label
> > optimization patches.
>   Sorry for replying late, I was on vacation. My motivation was that we
> wanted BLK_DEV_IO_TRACE enabled in all our distro kernels but there is
> a concern that this could have some impact on performance especially
> in SLAB allocator due to more icache pressure or so. This is not completely
> bogus concern if you look at bloat-o-meter output. For example:
> function                                     old     new   delta
> kmem_cache_alloc                             542     768    +226
> 
>   But looking at the disassembly now, I can see that the difference in
> inline code is actually only ~40 bytes (on x86_64) - so that's about 7%.
> Not a huge deal but still noticeable. 
> 
> > I liked the fact we had a general tracing kernel once the above
> > config is selected. And we don't bother telling people that to
> > use tool X you need CONFIG_EVENT_Y, and you need to rebuild your
> > kernel, etc...
>   OK, I understand this. I guess I should go and measure whether disabling
> tracepoints really makes some performance difference or not.



If you do so, please try with with the jmp label patches:
http://lwn.net/Articles/379776/


      reply	other threads:[~2010-03-26 19:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-23  0:32 [PATCH 0/18] Allow different tracers to be compiled independently Jan Kara
2010-03-23  0:32 ` [PATCH 01/18] trace: Allow <linux/tracepoint.h> to create empty tracepoints Jan Kara
2010-03-23  1:06   ` Steven Rostedt
2010-03-26  1:30     ` Jan Kara
2010-03-23  0:32 ` [PATCH 02/18] block: Generate blktrace trace points only if blktrace is enabled Jan Kara
2010-03-23  0:32 ` [PATCH 03/18] mm: Generate kmemtrace trace points only if they are enabled Jan Kara
2010-03-23  0:32 ` [PATCH 04/18] mac80211: Generate trace points only if api tracer enabled Jan Kara
2010-03-23  1:11   ` Johannes Berg
2010-03-23 23:54     ` Steven Rostedt
2010-03-23  0:32 ` [PATCH 05/18] workqueue: Generate trace points only when workqueue " Jan Kara
2010-03-23  0:32 ` [PATCH 06/18] sched: Generate trace points only if scheduler tracing is enabled Jan Kara
2010-03-23  1:07   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-23 23:52     ` Steven Rostedt
2010-03-24  0:31       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-23  0:32 ` [PATCH 07/18] ext4: Provide config options for enabling ext4 and jbd2 tracing Jan Kara
2010-03-23  0:32 ` [PATCH 08/18] lockdep: Provide config option for enabling lock tracepoints Jan Kara
2010-03-23  0:32 ` [PATCH 09/18] module: Provide config option to enable tracing of module load / unload Jan Kara
2010-03-23  0:32 ` [PATCH 10/18] gfs2: Provide config option for enabling trace points Jan Kara
2010-03-23 12:01   ` [Cluster-devel] " Steven Whitehouse
2010-03-23 23:56     ` Steven Rostedt
2010-03-24 11:20       ` Steven Whitehouse
2010-03-24 12:09         ` Steven Rostedt
2010-03-23  0:32 ` [PATCH 11/18] i915: Provide config option for enabling tracepoints Jan Kara
2010-03-23  8:42   ` Chris Wilson
2010-03-23  0:32 ` [PATCH 12/18] timer: Provide config option for enabling timer tracepoints Jan Kara
2010-03-23  2:01   ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-03-23  3:01     ` Steven Rostedt
2010-03-23  0:32 ` [PATCH 13/18] acpi: Provide config option to enable power tracepoints Jan Kara
2010-03-23  0:32 ` [PATCH 14/18] net: Provide config option for enabling SKB tracing Jan Kara
2010-03-23  0:32 ` [PATCH 15/18] net: Provide config option for enabling NAPI tracing Jan Kara
2010-03-23  0:32 ` [PATCH 16/18] Generate empty tracepoints if syscall tracing is disabled Jan Kara
2010-03-23  0:32 ` [PATCH 17/18] kvm: Provide config option for enabling KVM trace events Jan Kara
2010-03-23  0:32 ` [PATCH 18/18] Create config option for enabling IRQ tracepoints Jan Kara
2010-03-23  1:04 ` [PATCH 0/18] Allow different tracers to be compiled independently Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-23  3:34   ` Theodore Tso
2010-03-23  8:05     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-23 12:27       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-03-23 13:18         ` Steven Rostedt
2010-03-26  0:20   ` Jan Kara
2010-03-26 19:09     ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]

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