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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Americo Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Hidetoshi Seto <seto.hidetoshi@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>,
	Spencer Candland <spencer@bluehost.com>,
	Stanislaw Gruszka <sgruszka@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC,PATCH 1/2] cputimers/proc: do_task_stat()->task_times() can race with getrusage()
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 22:49:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100326214906.GA18467@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100326035344.GQ3308@balbir.in.ibm.com>

On 03/26, Balbir Singh wrote:
>
> * Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> [2010-03-24 21:45:50]:
>
> > do_task_stat()->task_times() can race with getrusage(), they both can
> > try to update task->prev_Xtime at the same time.
> >
> > Remove this bit of d180c5bc "sched: Introduce task_times() to replace
> > task_{u,s}time()".
>
> One of the reasons for adding this accuracy was to avoid sampling
> based noise and errors that occur with utime and stime.
>
> As long as there is no preemption during the assignment, I think we
> should be OK.

I don't think preemp_disable() can help. Probably we can use task_lock().


As for do_task_stat()->thread_group_times(), I think we can make it
rc-safe without breaking /bin/top.

	1. add spin_lock_irqsave(&sig->cputimer.lock) around
	   sig->prev_Xtime = max(...)

	2. Add a couple of barriers into thread_group_cputime()
	   and __exit_signal() so that without ->siglock we can
	   never overestimate utime/stime if we race with exit.

	   If we underestimate these values, this should be fine:

	   - the error can't be "systematic", the next read from
	     /prod/pid/stat will see the updated values

	   - the prev_Xtime logic in thread_group_times() ensures
	     the reported time can never go back.

	   IOW: at worse, cat /proc/pid/stat can miss the time
	   which the exited thread spent on CPU after the previous
	   read of /proc/pid/stat. This looks absolutely harmless,
	   the next read will see this time.

	   Probably we can even detect this case if we look at
	   sig->nr_threads and retry.

I'll try to make patches unless someone has a better idea.

I just can't accept the fact that we are doing while_each_thread()
under ->siglock here ;)

Oleg.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-03-26 21:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-24 20:45 [RFC,PATCH 1/2] cputimers/proc: do_task_stat()->task_times() can race with getrusage() Oleg Nesterov
2010-03-26  3:53 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-26  7:37   ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2010-03-26 16:12     ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2010-03-26 21:49   ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2010-03-29 11:17     ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2010-03-29 12:54       ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-03-29 18:12         ` [PATCH -mm 0/4] cputimers/proc: do_task_stat: don't walk through the thread list under ->siglock Oleg Nesterov
2010-03-29 18:12           ` [PATCH -mm 1/4] cputimers: thread_group_cputime: cleanup rcu/signal stuff Oleg Nesterov
2010-03-29 18:13           ` [PATCH -mm 2/4] cputimers: make sure thread_group_cputime() can't count the same thread twice lockless Oleg Nesterov
2010-03-30 11:01             ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2010-03-30 13:43               ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-03-29 18:13           ` [PATCH -mm 3/4] cputimers: thread_group_times: make it rcu-safe Oleg Nesterov
2010-03-29 18:14           ` [PATCH -mm 1/4] cputimers: do_task_stat: avoid ->siglock for while_each_thread() Oleg Nesterov
2010-03-29 18:16             ` Oleg Nesterov

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