From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Stanislaw Gruszka <sgruszka@redhat.com>
Cc: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Americo Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Hidetoshi Seto <seto.hidetoshi@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>,
Spencer Candland <spencer@bluehost.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC,PATCH 1/2] cputimers/proc: do_task_stat()->task_times() can race with getrusage()
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:54:15 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100329125415.GA22451@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100329111731.GA4488@dhcp-lab-161.englab.brq.redhat.com>
On 03/29, Stanislaw Gruszka wrote:
>
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:49:06PM +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > As for do_task_stat()->thread_group_times(), I think we can make it
> > rc-safe without breaking /bin/top.
> >
> > 1. add spin_lock_irqsave(&sig->cputimer.lock) around
> > sig->prev_Xtime = max(...)
> The easiest way to avoid that races is move all calls to task_times()
> and thread_group_times() inside ->siglock, but that's a bit crappy.
Yes, and we should avoid overloading ->siglock if possible.
> There is also another impossible race here. On 32-bit machines
> reading/writing sum_exec_runtime is not atomic,
Sure,
> IIRC ->siglock
> protect about that as well.
I don't think so. update_curr/etc updates t->se.sum_exec_runtime without
->siglock, it can't help to read u64 values atomically.
> > 2. Add a couple of barriers into thread_group_cputime()
> > and __exit_signal() so that without ->siglock we can
> > never overestimate utime/stime if we race with exit.
> >
> > If we underestimate these values, this should be fine:
> >
> > - the error can't be "systematic", the next read from
> > /prod/pid/stat will see the updated values
> >
> > - the prev_Xtime logic in thread_group_times() ensures
> > the reported time can never go back.
> >
> > IOW: at worse, cat /proc/pid/stat can miss the time
> > which the exited thread spent on CPU after the previous
> > read of /proc/pid/stat. This looks absolutely harmless,
> > the next read will see this time.
> >
> > Probably we can even detect this case if we look at
> > sig->nr_threads and retry.
> Races with __exit_signal() can lead to count Xtime values twice,
> first: in tsk->Xtime, second: after task exits, in sig->Xtime.
Please see above. This is what should be avoided.
> > I'll try to make patches unless someone has a better idea.
> >
> > I just can't accept the fact that we are doing while_each_thread()
> > under ->siglock here ;)
> Problem is not only in do_task_stat(). We have couple other places
> where we iterate over all threads with ->siglock taken.
Yes sure. I dislike the do_task_stat() case because we always do this,
even if this info is not needed, say, for /bin/ps.
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-29 12:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-24 20:45 [RFC,PATCH 1/2] cputimers/proc: do_task_stat()->task_times() can race with getrusage() Oleg Nesterov
2010-03-26 3:53 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-26 7:37 ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2010-03-26 16:12 ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2010-03-26 21:49 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-03-29 11:17 ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2010-03-29 12:54 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2010-03-29 18:12 ` [PATCH -mm 0/4] cputimers/proc: do_task_stat: don't walk through the thread list under ->siglock Oleg Nesterov
2010-03-29 18:12 ` [PATCH -mm 1/4] cputimers: thread_group_cputime: cleanup rcu/signal stuff Oleg Nesterov
2010-03-29 18:13 ` [PATCH -mm 2/4] cputimers: make sure thread_group_cputime() can't count the same thread twice lockless Oleg Nesterov
2010-03-30 11:01 ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2010-03-30 13:43 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-03-29 18:13 ` [PATCH -mm 3/4] cputimers: thread_group_times: make it rcu-safe Oleg Nesterov
2010-03-29 18:14 ` [PATCH -mm 1/4] cputimers: do_task_stat: avoid ->siglock for while_each_thread() Oleg Nesterov
2010-03-29 18:16 ` Oleg Nesterov
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