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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] NFS: Fix RCU warnings in nfs_inode_return_delegation_noreclaim() [ver #2]
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 11:30:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100331183022.GH2461@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15371.1270057054@redhat.com>

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 06:37:34PM +0100, David Howells wrote:
> Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
> > Protected by something that the caller did, be it holding the the correct
> > lock, operating on it during initialization before other CPUs have access
> > to it, operating on it during cleanup after other CPUs' access has been
> > revoked, or whatever.
> 
> But the point I made very early this morning still stands:  What if someone
> simply wants to test the pointer, not actually to dereference it?

OK, I was missing your point.  And this is what you were proposing
rcu_pointer_not_null() for.

> NFS was using rcu_dereference() for this in a couple of places - which is
> overkill.  I suggested stripping this off and you countered with the
> suggestion that it should be using rcu_dereference_check().
> 
> Why do I need anything at all?

Right now you don't.  We will need something as part of Arnd's patches to
shut sparse up, and I was hoping not to have to go through the find/fix
cycle twice.  But that turned out to be kind of pointless, since we
have burned far more time discussing than it would have taken to fix
it twice.  ;-)

But the discussion has been helpful, as I was previously just fine with
sprinkling otherwise-unneed rcu_dereference_whatever() calls thoughout
the kernel!

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-31 18:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-18 13:33 [PATCH] NFS: Fix RCU warnings in nfs_inode_return_delegation_noreclaim() [ver #2] David Howells
2010-03-19  2:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-03-29 19:02 ` David Howells
2010-03-29 19:21   ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-03-29 20:15   ` David Howells
2010-03-29 20:26     ` Eric Dumazet
2010-03-29 21:05     ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-03-29 22:22     ` David Howells
2010-03-29 22:36       ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-03-29 22:59       ` David Howells
2010-03-29 23:26         ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-03-30 15:40           ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-03-30 16:39           ` David Howells
2010-03-30 16:49             ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-03-30 17:04               ` Eric Dumazet
2010-03-30 17:25                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-03-30 23:51             ` David Howells
2010-03-31  0:08               ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-03-31 14:04               ` David Howells
2010-03-31 15:16                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-03-31 17:37                 ` David Howells
2010-03-31 18:30                   ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2010-03-31 18:32                   ` Eric Dumazet
2010-03-31 22:53                   ` David Howells
2010-04-01  1:29                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-01 11:45                     ` David Howells
2010-04-01 14:39                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-01 14:46                       ` David Howells
2010-04-05 17:57                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-06  9:30                         ` David Howells
2010-04-06 16:14                         ` David Howells
2010-04-06 17:29                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-06 19:34                           ` David Howells
2010-04-07  0:02                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-07 13:22                             ` David Howells
2010-04-07 15:57                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-07 16:35                               ` RCU condition checks David Howells
2010-04-07 17:10                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-04-11 22:57                                   ` Trond Myklebust
2010-04-12 16:47                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-03-30 16:37         ` [PATCH] NFS: Fix RCU warnings in nfs_inode_return_delegation_noreclaim() [ver #2] David Howells
2010-03-30 17:01           ` Paul E. McKenney

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