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From: Tom Lyon <pugs@lyon-about.com>
To: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/1] uio_pci_generic: extensions to allow access for non-privileged processes
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 12:18:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201004011218.28002.pugs@lyon-about.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100401160746.GH24846@8bytes.org>

On Thursday 01 April 2010 09:07:47 am Joerg Roedel wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 08:40:34AM -0700, Tom Lyon wrote:
> > On Thursday 01 April 2010 05:52:18 am Joerg Roedel wrote:
> > > > The point of this patch is to beef up the uio_pci_generic driver so
> > > > that a non-privileged user process can run a user level driver for
> > > > most PCIe devices. This can only be safe if there is an IOMMU in the
> > > > system with per-device domains.  Privileged users (CAP_SYS_RAWIO) are
> > > > allowed if there is no IOMMU.
> > >
> > > If you rely on an IOMMU you can use the IOMMU-API instead of the
> > > DMA-API for dma mappings. This change makes this driver suitable for
> > > KVM use too. If the interface is designed clever enough we can even use
> > > it for IOMMU emulation for pass-through devices.
> >
> > The use with privileged processes and no IOMMUs is still quite useful, so
> > I'd rather stick with the DMA interface.
>
> For the KVM use-case we need to be able to specify the io virtual
> address for a given process virtual address. This is not possible with
> the dma-api interface. So if we want to have uio-dma without an hardware
> iommu we need two distinct interfaces for userspace to cover all
> use-cases. I don't think its worth it to have two interfaces.
>
> 	Joerg

I started to add that capability but then realized that the IOMMU API also 
doesn't allow it. The map function allows a range of physically contiguous 
pages, not virtual.

My preferred approach would be to add a DMA_ATTR that would request allocation 
of DMA at a specific device/iommu address.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-01 19:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-01  0:08 [PATCH 0/1] uio_pci_generic: extensions to allow access for non-privileged processes Tom Lyon
2010-04-01  0:12 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Tom Lyon
2010-04-09  9:08   ` Joerg Roedel
2010-04-09 16:27     ` Tom Lyon
2010-04-01  9:09 ` [PATCH 0/1] " Avi Kivity
2010-04-01 15:39   ` Tom Lyon
2010-04-01 15:54     ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-01 16:06       ` Tom Lyon
2010-04-01 16:10         ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-01 19:24           ` Tom Lyon
2010-04-01 20:21             ` Joerg Roedel
2010-04-02  6:43             ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-02 17:05               ` Greg KH
2010-04-09  9:58                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-09 16:34                   ` Tom Lyon
2010-04-09 16:48                     ` [PATCH 0/1] uio_pci_generic: extensions to allow access for?non-privileged processes Joerg Roedel
2010-04-09 17:43                     ` [PATCH 0/1] uio_pci_generic: extensions to allow access for non-privileged processes Avi Kivity
2010-04-09 20:09                     ` [PATCH 0/1] uio_pci_generic: extensions to allow access for?non-privileged processes Chris Wright
2010-04-09 20:05                   ` [PATCH 0/1] uio_pci_generic: extensions to allow access for non-privileged processes Chris Wright
2010-04-01 21:27       ` Tom Lyon
2010-04-02  6:44         ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-01 12:52 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-04-01 15:40   ` Tom Lyon
2010-04-01 16:07     ` Joerg Roedel
2010-04-01 19:18       ` Tom Lyon [this message]
2010-04-01 20:09         ` Joerg Roedel
2010-04-01 14:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-01 16:02   ` Tom Lyon
2010-04-01 16:57   ` Joerg Roedel
2010-04-01 19:08 ` Hans J. Koch

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