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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jon Masters <jonathan@jonmasters.org>
Subject: Re: Is module refcounting racy?
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 15:05:49 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100406050549.GA11191@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1004010852170.3707@i5.linux-foundation.org>

On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 08:55:59AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, 1 Apr 2010, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > 
> > I think it can be done racelessly with my patch, which is not really too
> > much overhead. I think if this is considered too much, then we should
> > either fix code and preferably de-export and remove module_refcount from
> > drivers, or remove module removal completely.
> 
> I doubt your patch matters too much, but I like it conceptually and it 
> seems to be a nice basis for perhaps doing something clever in the long 
> run.
> 
> [ ie avoiding the stop_machine and instead perhaps doing some optimistic 
>   thing like "see if we seem to be unused right now, then unregister us, 
>   and see - after unregistering - that the usage counts haven't increased, 
>   and re-register if they have. ]

That's true, reducing the requirement for stop_machine is always a nice
thing to have.

Also if anyone else is looking at a way to do _really_ scalable
refcounting elsewhere, this could be a good template (I certainly looked
here first when trying to get ideas for vfsmount refcounting).

 
> So I'd like to apply it as a "good improvement, even if module unloading 
> which is the only thing that _should_ care deeply should already be under 
> stop-machine".
> 
> But I'd like an ack or two first.

Sure, I'll let Rusty push it to you when he's happy with it.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-04-06  5:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-18 10:55 Is module refcounting racy? Nick Piggin
2010-03-29  9:12 ` Rusty Russell
2010-03-29 16:58   ` Nick Piggin
2010-03-31  3:44     ` Rusty Russell
2010-04-01  8:09       ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-01 15:55         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-04-06  2:39           ` Rusty Russell
2010-04-06  5:05           ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2010-04-06  6:19             ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-06  7:38               ` Nick Piggin

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