From: Matt Helsley <matthltc@us.ibm.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Matt Helsley <matthltc@us.ibm.com>,
Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Grzegorz Nosek <root@localdomain.pl>,
Sukadev Bhattiprolu <sukadev@us.ibm.com>,
containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Testing lxc 0.6.5 in Fedora 13
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 08:29:36 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100406152936.GD3345@count0.beaverton.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1vdc48vhy.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org>
On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 08:13:13AM -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Matt Helsley <matthltc@us.ibm.com> writes:
>
> > On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 08:44:43PM -0700, Roland McGrath wrote:
<snip>
> >> None of this has much of anything to do with strace, of course. As I've
> >> said, I don't see anything other than the PTRACE_GETEVENTMSG value for
> >> PTRACE_EVENT_{CLONE,FORK,VFORK} reports that is wrong in the kernel. As
> >> Oleg said, strace doesn't use that at all. (This is not the place to
> >> discuss the details of strace further.)
> >
> > Also, looking at proposed changes (utrace and Eric Biederman's setns())
> > storing a pid nr rather than a reference to a task struct or struct pid
> > probably won't be correct.
>
> My setns work has demonstrated that even for entering a namespace we
> never ever need to change the struct pid of a task. setns has no other
> bearing on this problem then to say there is no foreseeable reason to
> change the rules.
>
> > In the case of Eric Biederman's setns(), if capable of changing pid namespace,
> > we could have:
> >
> > Traced Tracer
> > fork()
> > ... (an arbitrary amount of time passes)
> > setns()
> > ptrace(GETEVENTMSG)
>
> Forget that. The pid namespace was architected so that we can ptrace a process
> in another pid namespace.
>
> > At which point returning a static pid number held in the message field
> > produces the wrong pid.
>
> No. A processes always sees pids from the context of it's original pid
> namespace. All setns does is affect which pid namespace children will
> be native in.
OK, good. So we can resolve the tasks/struct pids within the tracehook
and be done with it. Thanks Eric!
Cheers,
-Matt Helsley
prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-04-06 15:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20100321195044.GA23757@megiteam.pl>
2010-03-23 21:28 ` Testing lxc 0.6.5 in Fedora 13 Matt Helsley
2010-03-24 9:25 ` Greg Kurz
2010-03-25 21:33 ` Grzegorz Nosek
2010-03-26 11:11 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-03-26 11:32 ` Grzegorz Nosek
2010-03-26 12:00 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-03-26 12:46 ` Matt Helsley
2010-03-26 13:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-03-26 11:53 ` Matt Helsley
2010-03-26 12:45 ` Grzegorz Nosek
2010-03-26 12:54 ` Matt Helsley
2010-03-26 13:56 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-03-26 13:47 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-04-06 3:44 ` Roland McGrath
2010-04-06 13:53 ` Matt Helsley
2010-04-06 14:36 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-04-06 15:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-04-06 15:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-04-06 15:29 ` Matt Helsley [this message]
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