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From: Daniel Mack <daniel@caiaq.de>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Pedro Ribeiro <pedrib@gmail.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
	alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: USB transfer_buffer allocations on 64bit systems
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 13:14:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100412111439.GU30801@buzzloop.caiaq.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sk719hbm.fsf@basil.nowhere.org>

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:59:57AM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> writes:
> >> 
> >> The fix is to use usb_buffer_alloc() for that purpose which ensures
> >> memory that is suitable for DMA. And on x86_64, this also means that the
> >> upper 32 bits of the address returned are all 0's.
> >
> > That is not a good fix.  usb_buffer_alloc() provides coherent memory, 
> > which is not what we want.  I believe the correct fix is to specify the 
> > GFP_DMA32 flag in the kzalloc() call.
> 
> The traditional way to handle this is to leave it to swiotlb in
> pci_map_*. pci_map_* is needed anyways if you run with a IOMMU.
> 
> Also note at least on x86 systems coherent memory is the same as non coherent
> memory. And GFP_DMA32 is a x86 specific flag, doesn't necessarily 
> do any good anywhere else.
> 
> So if you add x86isms anyways you could as well use dma_alloc_coherent()
> directly which is actually better at this than a simple GFP_DMA32
> and as a bonus handles the IOMMUs correctly too.

Which is exactly what usb_buffer_alloc() does already. So at least for
x86 you say this is the right thing to do? However, we don't necessarily
need coherent memory on other platforms, which is why I hessitate to
enforce that type of memory for all transfer_buffer allocations.

> Or just use GFP_KERNEL and pci_map_* later.

The USB core does this already, but at least on Pedro's machine, this
seems unsufficient. Unfortunately, I can't reproduce the issue yet, even
with more than 4GB of RAM installed.

Daniel


  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-12 11:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 138+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-07  9:06 USB transfer_buffer allocations on 64bit systems Daniel Mack
     [not found] ` <p2g581ef6d61004070220z1153d40ez955b356e01220848@mail.gmail.com>
2010-04-07  9:26   ` USB HID gadget driver (was: Re: USB transfer_buffer allocations on 64bit systems) Daniel Mack
2010-04-07 14:59 ` USB transfer_buffer allocations on 64bit systems Alan Stern
2010-04-07 15:11   ` Daniel Mack
2010-04-07 15:31     ` Greg KH
2010-04-07 15:35       ` Daniel Mack
2010-04-07 15:51         ` Greg KH
2010-04-07 16:04           ` Alan Stern
2010-04-08  6:09         ` Oliver Neukum
2010-04-08 11:07           ` Daniel Mack
2010-04-07 15:55       ` Alan Stern
2010-04-07 16:16         ` Daniel Mack
2010-04-07 16:47           ` Alan Stern
2010-04-07 17:55           ` Takashi Iwai
2010-04-07 17:59             ` Daniel Mack
2010-04-07 18:06               ` Takashi Iwai
2010-04-07 19:13             ` Alan Stern
2010-04-07 23:59               ` Robert Hancock
2010-04-08  0:33               ` Greg KH
2010-04-09  0:01                 ` Robert Hancock
2010-04-09 16:50                   ` Sarah Sharp
2010-04-09 23:38                     ` Robert Hancock
2010-04-10  8:34                       ` [alsa-devel] " Daniel Mack
2010-04-10 17:02                         ` Robert Hancock
2010-04-12 18:56                           ` Sarah Sharp
2010-04-12 20:39                             ` Robert Hancock
2010-04-12 20:58                               ` Sarah Sharp
2010-04-12 11:17               ` [PATCH] USB: rename usb_buffer_alloc() and usb_buffer_free() Daniel Mack
2010-04-13 18:16                 ` Daniel Mack
2010-04-13 19:27                   ` Alan Stern
2010-04-13 20:26                     ` Greg KH
2010-04-13 21:47                       ` Daniel Mack
2010-04-07 17:52         ` USB transfer_buffer allocations on 64bit systems Takashi Iwai
2010-04-07 15:46     ` Alan Stern
2010-04-08  6:12       ` Oliver Neukum
2010-04-08 16:59         ` Alan Stern
2010-04-08 21:24           ` Oliver Neukum
2010-04-08 22:20             ` Alan Stern
2010-04-09  6:04               ` Oliver Neukum
2010-04-09 14:41                 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-09 14:50                   ` Oliver Neukum
2010-04-09 15:15                     ` Alan Stern
2010-04-09 20:51                       ` Oliver Neukum
2010-04-09 21:21                         ` Alan Stern
2010-04-07 16:54   ` Oliver Neukum
2010-04-07 17:00     ` Daniel Mack
2010-04-07 23:55   ` Robert Hancock
2010-04-08  2:10     ` Alan Stern
2010-04-08  7:30       ` Daniel Mack
2010-04-08 16:57         ` Alan Stern
2010-04-08 17:17           ` Pedro Ribeiro
2010-04-08 18:17             ` Alan Stern
2010-04-08 23:13           ` Pedro Ribeiro
2010-04-09 16:01             ` Alan Stern
2010-04-09 18:09               ` Daniel Mack
2010-04-09 18:19                 ` Pedro Ribeiro
2010-04-09 19:34                   ` Alan Stern
2010-04-09 20:14                     ` Daniel Mack
2010-04-09 20:25                     ` [LKML] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2010-04-09 21:23                       ` Alan Stern
2010-04-09 22:11                         ` Robert Hancock
2010-04-12 10:48                           ` Daniel Mack
2010-04-12 12:06                             ` Pedro Ribeiro
2010-04-10 12:49                   ` Daniel Mack
2010-04-10 13:21                     ` Pedro Ribeiro
2010-04-12  8:59   ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-12 11:14     ` Daniel Mack [this message]
2010-04-12 11:53       ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-12 12:11         ` Pedro Ribeiro
2010-04-12 12:12           ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-12 12:32             ` Daniel Mack
2010-04-12 12:47               ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-12 12:54                 ` Daniel Mack
2010-04-12 15:43                   ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-12 16:17                     ` Alan Stern
2010-04-12 16:29                       ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-12 16:57                         ` Alan Stern
2010-04-12 17:15                           ` Daniel Mack
2010-04-12 17:22                             ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-12 17:56                               ` Daniel Mack
2010-04-12 17:52                             ` [LKML] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2010-04-13 18:22                           ` Daniel Mack
2010-04-13 23:46                             ` Pedro Ribeiro
2010-04-14 10:09                               ` Daniel Mack
2010-04-14 10:47                                 ` Pedro Ribeiro
2010-04-14 11:02                                   ` Pedro Ribeiro
2010-04-14 13:18                                   ` [LKML] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2010-04-14 14:08                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-04-14 16:36                                     ` Daniel Mack
2010-04-14 17:21                                       ` Pedro Ribeiro
2010-04-14 18:23                                         ` Alan Stern
2010-04-14 18:27                                           ` Pedro Ribeiro
2010-04-14 18:53                                             ` Alan Stern
2010-04-15  7:35                                         ` Daniel Mack
2010-04-14 18:15                                       ` Alan Stern
2010-04-14 18:36                                         ` David Woodhouse
2010-04-14 21:12                                           ` Pedro Ribeiro
2010-04-14 22:25                                             ` Chris Wright
2010-04-14 22:56                                               ` Pedro Ribeiro
2010-04-14 23:37                                                 ` Chris Wright
2010-04-15  1:20                                                   ` Pedro Ribeiro
2010-04-15 15:20                                                     ` Alan Stern
2010-04-20  0:16                                                       ` Pedro Ribeiro
2010-05-07  7:48                                                         ` Daniel Mack
2010-05-07  9:47                                                           ` [alsa-devel] " Clemens Ladisch
2010-05-07 10:24                                                             ` Daniel Mack
2010-05-07 14:51                                                               ` Alan Stern
2010-05-10  2:50                                                                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-05-10  9:21                                                                   ` David Woodhouse
2010-05-10 14:58                                                                     ` Alan Stern
2010-05-11  1:06                                                                       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-05-11 14:00                                                                         ` Alan Stern
2010-05-11 14:22                                                                           ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-05-11 14:24                                                                           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2010-05-11 14:38                                                                             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-05-11 15:04                                                                               ` Alan Stern
2010-05-11 15:34                                                                                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-05-11 16:06                                                                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-05-11 16:09                                                                                     ` Daniel Mack
2010-05-11 16:48                                                                                     ` Pedro Ribeiro
2010-05-11 17:10                                                                                       ` Daniel Mack
2010-05-11 17:32                                                                                         ` Pedro Ribeiro
2010-05-11 17:38                                                                                           ` Daniel Mack
2010-05-12 23:50                                                                                             ` Pedro Ribeiro
2010-05-13  9:36                                                                                               ` Daniel Mack
2010-05-14  0:17                                                                                                 ` Pedro Ribeiro
2010-05-11 14:57                                                                             ` Alan Stern
2010-05-11 15:05                                                                               ` Daniel Mack
2010-05-10 14:31                                                               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2010-05-07 11:42                                                             ` Oliver Neukum
2010-05-07 11:47                                                               ` Oliver Neukum
2010-05-07 11:58                                                                 ` Daniel Mack
2010-05-07 14:45                                                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-04-14 18:38                                         ` Chris Wright
2010-04-14 20:29                                           ` Alan Stern
2010-04-14 21:01                                             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2010-04-14 21:12                                               ` Pedro Ribeiro
2010-04-15  1:50                                                 ` Alan Stern

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