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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mm 3/3] proc: make task_sig() lockless
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 21:50:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100412195042.GA14108@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100409195936.44663BD18@magilla.sf.frob.com>

On 04/09, Roland McGrath wrote:
>
> > Yes. From the changelog:
> >
> > 	Of course, this means we read pending/blocked/etc nonatomically,
> > 	but I hope this is OK for fs/proc.
> >
> > But I don't think the returned data could be "really" inconsistent
> > from the /bin/ps pov. Yes, it is possible that, say, some signal is
> > seen as both pending and ignored without ->siglock. Or we can report
> > user->sigpending != 0 while pending/shpending are empty.
> >
> > But this looks harmless to me. We never guaranteed /proc/pid/status
> > can't report the "intermediate" state, and I don't think we can
> > confuse the user-space.
> >
> > Do you agree? Or do you think this can make problems ?
>
> I'm not so sure.  Operations like sigprocmask and sigaction really have
> always been entirely atomic from the userland perspective before.  Now it
> becomes possible to read from /proc e.g. a blocked set that never existed
> as such (one word updated by sigprocmask but not yet the next word).

Yes, /proc/pid/status can report the intermediate state, I even sent
the updated changelog to document this.

But if you are not sure this is OK, I am worried. Do you think we should
drop this patch? If yes, I won't argue.

Oleg.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-04-12 19:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-22 18:41 [PATCH -mm 3/3] proc: make task_sig() lockless Oleg Nesterov
2010-03-23  8:30 ` David Howells
2010-03-23  8:37 ` David Howells
2010-03-23 10:57   ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-03-24  8:37     ` David Howells
2010-03-24 15:00       ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-04-09 19:59     ` Roland McGrath
2010-04-10  8:16       ` David Howells
2010-04-12 19:50       ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2010-04-13  6:30         ` Roland McGrath
2010-04-13 20:00           ` Oleg Nesterov

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