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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: xiaohui.xin@intel.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu,
	davem@davemloft.net, jdike@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] A device for zero-copy based on KVM virtio-net.
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 22:39:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201004142239.50299.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100414203142.GA11321@redhat.com>

On Wednesday 14 April 2010 22:31:42 Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 06:35:57PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Wednesday 14 April 2010, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > qemu needs the ability to inject raw packets into device
> > > > > from userspace, bypassing vhost/virtio (for live migration).
> > > > 
> > > > Ok, but since there is only a write callback and no read, it won't
> > > > actually be able to do this with the current code, right?
> > > 
> > > I think it'll work as is, with vhost qemu only ever writes,
> > > never reads from device. We'll also never need GSO etc
> > > which is a large part of what tap does (and macvtap will
> > > have to do).
> > 
> > Ah, I see. I didn't realize that qemu needs to write to the
> > device even if vhost is used. But for the case of migration to
> > another machine without vhost, wouldn't qemu also need to read?
> 
> Not that I know. Why?

Well, if the guest not only wants to send data but also receive
frames coming from other machines, they need to get from the kernel
into qemu, and the only way I can see for doing that is to read
from this device if there is no vhost support around on the new
machine.

Maybe we're talking about different things here.

	Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-14 20:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-09  9:37 [RFC][PATCH v3 0/3] Provide a zero-copy method on KVM virtio-net xiaohui.xin
2010-04-09  9:37 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] A device for zero-copy based " xiaohui.xin
2010-04-09  9:37   ` [RFC][PATCH v3 2/3] Provides multiple submits and asynchronous notifications xiaohui.xin
2010-04-09  9:37     ` [RFC][PATCH v3 3/3] Let host NIC driver to DMA to guest user space xiaohui.xin
2010-04-14 14:55   ` [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] A device for zero-copy based on KVM virtio-net Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-14 15:26     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-14 15:57       ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-14 16:16         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-14 16:35           ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-14 20:31             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-14 20:39               ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2010-04-14 20:40                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-14 20:52                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-15  9:01     ` Xin, Xiaohui
2010-04-15  9:03       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-22  8:24         ` xiaohui.xin
2010-04-22  8:29           ` Xin, Xiaohui
2010-04-22  8:37         ` Re:[RFC][PATCH v3 2/3] Provides multiple submits and asynchronous notifications xiaohui.xin
2010-04-22  9:49           ` [RFC][PATCH " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-23  7:08             ` xiaohui.xin
2010-04-24 19:32               ` [RFC][PATCH " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-15 15:06       ` [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] A device for zero-copy based on KVM virtio-net Arnd Bergmann

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