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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>
Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>, lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Documentation/credentials.txt
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:14:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100424001437.GB2589@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100423235532.GA17804@us.ibm.com>

On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 06:55:33PM -0500, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> In the section 'ACCESSING ANOTHER TASK'S CREDENTIALS', the file
> Documentation/credentials.txt says:
> 
> > A function need not get RCU read lock to use __task_cred() if it is holding a
> > spinlock at the time as this implicitly holds the RCU read lock.
> 
> AIUI, that is not actually right any more, is it?  A spinlock does not
> suffice as it does not necessarily imply an RCU read-side critical section
> (anymore).  Of course the spinlock specifically protecting updates would
> suffice, but that's not what this is saying.
> 
> Am I way off base?

You are absolutely correct, good catch!!!

Now, a spinlock still does imply an RCU read-side critical section given
the following configuration options:

o	!CONFIG_PREEMPT

o	CONFIG_PREEMPT && CONFIG_TREE_RCU

o	CONFIG_PREEMPT && CONFIG_TINY_RCU

However, relying on this is usually bad practice, as such code is prone
to failure given the following configuration options:

o	CONFIG_PREEMPT && CONFIG_TREE_PREEMPT_RCU

o	CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT (given the -rt patchset)

And when I get my act together and complete CONFIG_TINY_PREEMPT_RCU,
then CONFIG_PREEMPT && CONFIG_TINY_PREEMPT_RCU will also invalidate
the assumption that holding a spinlock acts as an RCU read-side
critical section.

Did you want to submit a patch for this?

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-24  0:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-23 23:55 Documentation/credentials.txt Serge E. Hallyn
2010-04-24  0:14 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2010-04-24  0:46   ` Documentation/credentials.txt Serge E. Hallyn

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