From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Tom Lyon <pugs@lyon-about.com>
Cc: hjk@linutronix.de, gregkh@suse.de, chrisw@sous-sol.org,
joro@8bytes.org, avi@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3] drivers/uio/uio_pci_generic.c: allow access for non-privileged processes
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 22:52:16 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100429195216.GA31637@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201004291229.40918.pugs@lyon-about.com>
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:29:40PM -0700, Tom Lyon wrote:
> Michael, et al - sorry for the delay, but I've been digesting the comments and researching new approaches.
>
> I think the plan for V4 will be to take things entirely out of the UIO framework, and instead have a driver which supports user mode use of "well-behaved" PCI devices. I would like to use read and write to support access to memory regions, IO regions, or PCI config space. Config space is a bitch because not everything is safe to read or write, but I've come up with a table driven approach which can be run-time extended for non-compliant devices (under root control) which could then enable non-privileged users. For instance, OHCI 1394 devices use a dword in config space which is not formatted as a PCI capability, root can use sysfs to enable access:
> echo <offset> <readbits> <writebits> > /sys/dev/pci/devices/xxxx:xx:xx.x/<yyy>/config_permit
>
>
> A "well-behaved" PCI device must have memory BARs >= 4K for mmaping, must have separate memory space for MSI-X that does not need mmaping
> by the user driver, must support the PCI 2.3 interrupt masking, and must not go totally crazy with PCI config space (tg3 is real ugly, e1000 is fine).
e1000 has a good driver in kernel, though.
>
> Again, my primary usage model is for direct user-level access to network devices, not for virtualization, but I think both will work.
I suspect that without mmap and (to a lesser extent) write-combining,
this would be pretty useless for virtualization.
> So, I will go outside UIO because:
> 1 - it doesn't allow reads and writes to sub-drivers, just irqcontrol
> 2 - it doesn't have ioctls
> 3 - it has its own interrupt model which doesn't use eventfds
> 4 - it's ugly doing the new stuff and maintaining backwards compat.
>
> I hereby solicit comments on the name and location for the new driver.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-04-30 17:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-04-19 22:05 [PATCH V3] drivers/uio/uio_pci_generic.c: allow access for non-privileged processes Tom Lyon
2010-04-21 9:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-21 10:31 ` Hans J. Koch
2010-04-21 10:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-29 19:29 ` Tom Lyon
2010-04-29 19:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2010-05-01 14:28 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-05-03 17:47 ` [LKML] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
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