From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu,
laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, josh@joshtriplett.org,
dvhltc@us.ibm.com, niv@us.ibm.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
peterz@infradead.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, dhowells@redhat.com,
eric.dumazet@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 01/48] rcu: optionally leave lockdep enabled after RCU lockdep splat
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 19:24:57 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100505232457.GA1313@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100505230557.GD2439@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
* Paul E. McKenney (paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com) wrote:
> On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 06:46:41PM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > * Paul E. McKenney (paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com) wrote:
> > > From: Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>
> > >
> > > There is no need to disable lockdep after an RCU lockdep splat,
> > > so remove the debug_lockdeps_off() from lockdep_rcu_dereference().
> > > To avoid repeated lockdep splats, use a static variable in the inlined
> > > rcu_dereference_check() and rcu_dereference_protected() macros so that
> > > a given instance splats only once, but so that multiple instances can
> > > be detected per boot.
> > >
> > > This is controlled by a new config variable CONFIG_PROVE_RCU_REPEATEDLY,
> > > which is disabled by default. This provides the normal lockdep behavior
> > > by default, but permits people who want to find multiple RCU-lockdep
> > > splats per boot to easily do so.
> >
> > I'll play the devil's advocate here. (just because that's so much fun)
> > ;-)
> >
> > If we look at:
> >
> > include/linux/debug_locks.h:
> >
> > static inline int __debug_locks_off(void)
> > {
> > return xchg(&debug_locks, 0);
> > }
> >
> > We see that all code following a call to "debug_locks_off()" can assume
> > that it cannot possibly run concurrently with other code following
> > "debug_locks_off()". Now, I'm not saying that the code we currently have
> > will necessarily break, but I think it is worth asking if there is any
> > assumption in lockdep (or RCU lockdep more specifically) about mutual
> > exclusion after debug_locks_off() ?
> >
> > Because if there is, then this patch is definitely breaking something by
> > not protecting lockdep against multiple concurrent executions.
>
> So what in lockdep_rcu_dereference() needs to be protected from concurrent
> execution? All that happens beyond that point is a bunch of printk()s,
> printing the locks held by this task, and dumping this task's stack.
>
> Thanx, Paul
I agree with you that printing the current task information should be safe.
However, I am not sure that concurrent updates to the lock_class while printk()
is showing its information will end up doing what we expect it to do.
It could be acceptable to have unreliable information in these rare cases, but
the important thing would be to ensure that the kernel does not OOPS.
Thanks,
Mathieu
--
Mathieu Desnoyers
Operating System Efficiency R&D Consultant
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-05-05 23:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-04 20:19 [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/48] v4 patches queued for 2.6.35 Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 01/48] rcu: optionally leave lockdep enabled after RCU lockdep splat Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-05 22:46 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-05-05 23:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-05 23:24 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2010-05-05 23:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-06 2:05 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-05-06 23:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/48] rcu: substitute set_need_resched for sending resched IPIs Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 03/48] rcu: make dead code really dead Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 04/48] rcu: move some code from macro to function Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 05/48] rcu: ignore offline CPUs in last non-dyntick-idle CPU check Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 06/48] rcu: Fix bogus CONFIG_PROVE_LOCKING in comments to reflect reality Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 07/48] rcu: fix now-bogus rcu_scheduler_active comments Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 08/48] rcu: shrink rcutiny by making synchronize_rcu_bh() be inline Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 09/48] rcu: rename rcutiny rcu_ctrlblk to rcu_sched_ctrlblk Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 10/48] rcu: refactor RCU's context-switch handling Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 11/48] rcu: slim down rcutiny by removing rcu_scheduler_active and friends Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 12/48] rcu: enable CPU_STALL_VERBOSE by default Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 13/48] rcu: disable CPU stall warnings upon panic Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 14/48] rcu: print boot-time console messages if RCU configs out of ordinary Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 15/48] rcu: improve RCU CPU stall-warning messages Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 16/48] rcu: permit discontiguous cpu_possible_mask CPU numbering Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 17/48] rcu: v2: reduce the number of spurious RCU_SOFTIRQ invocations Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 18/48] rcu: improve the RCU CPU-stall warning documentation Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 19/48] Debugobjects transition check Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 20/48] rcu head introduce rcu head init on stack Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 21/48] remove all rcu head initializations, except on_stack initializations Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:27 ` Matt Mackall
2010-05-04 20:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 23:44 ` James Morris
2010-05-05 0:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 22/48] rcu head remove init Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 23/48] tree/tiny rcu: Add debug RCU head objects (v5) Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 24/48] rcu: make SRCU usable in modules Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 25/48] rcu: fix debugobjects rcu head init on stack in rcutree_plugin.h Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 26/48] rcu: RCU_FAST_NO_HZ must check RCU dyntick state Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 27/48] vfs: add fs.h to define struct file Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 28/48] net: Make accesses to ->br_port safe for sparse RCU Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 21:26 ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-05-04 21:41 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-05-05 22:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-06 14:09 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-05-06 23:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 29/48] rcu: add an rcu_dereference_index_check() Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 30/48] mce: convert to rcu_dereference_index_check() Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 31/48] rcu: define __rcu address space modifier for sparse Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:58 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-05-04 23:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 32/48] rculist: avoid __rcu annotations Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 33/48] cgroups: " Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:48 ` Paul Menage
2010-05-05 0:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 34/48] credentials: rcu annotation Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 35/48] keys: __rcu annotations Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 36/48] nfs: " Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-05 10:14 ` David Howells
2010-05-05 12:44 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-05-05 21:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 37/48] net: __rcu annotations for drivers Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 38/48] perf_event: __rcu annotations Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 39/48] notifiers: " Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 40/48] radix-tree: " Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 41/48] idr: " Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 42/48] input: " Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 43/48] vhost: add " Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 21:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-04 23:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 23:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-05 0:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 44/48] net/netfilter: " Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 45/48] kvm: add " Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 46/48] kernel: " Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 47/48] net: " Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 48/48] kvm: more " Paul E. McKenney
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