From: Matthew Garrett <mjg@redhat.com>
To: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>
Cc: Daniel Walker <dwalker@fifo99.com>,
Brian Swetland <swetland@google.com>,
Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
mark gross <mgross@linux.intel.com>,
markgross@thegnar.org, Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
Kernel development list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 1/8] PM: Add suspend block api.
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 22:03:04 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100507210304.GA28701@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100507205329.GP387@atomide.com>
On Fri, May 07, 2010 at 01:53:29PM -0700, Tony Lindgren wrote:
> So for example, if I leave ping running in a a terminal, do you
> have some way of preventing that from eating the battery?
It depends on policy. If all network packets generate wakeup events then
no, that will carry on eating battery. If ICMP doesn't generate a wakeup
event then the process won't be run.
> Do you just suspend the whole system anyways at some point,
> or do you have some other trick?
If nothing's holding any suspend blocks then the system will enter
suspend. If the packet generates a wakeup then the kernel would block
suspend until userspace has had the opportunity to do so. Once userspace
has handled the packet then it could release the block and the system
will immediately transition back into suspend.
Here's a different example. A process is waiting for a keypress, but
because it's badly written it's also drawing to the screen at 60 frames
per second and preventing the system from every going to idle. How do
you quiesce the system while still ensuring that the keypress will be
delivered to the application?
--
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org
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2010-04-30 22:36 [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6) Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-04-30 22:36 ` [PATCH 1/8] PM: Add suspend block api Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-04-30 22:36 ` [PATCH 2/8] PM: suspend_block: Add driver to access suspend blockers from user-space Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-04-30 22:36 ` [PATCH 3/8] PM: suspend_block: Abort task freezing if a suspend_blocker is active Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-04-30 22:36 ` [PATCH 4/8] PM: suspend_block: Add debugfs file Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-04-30 22:36 ` [PATCH 5/8] PM: suspend_block: Add suspend_blocker stats Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-04-30 22:36 ` [PATCH 6/8] PM: Add suspend blocking work Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-04-30 22:37 ` [PATCH 7/8] Input: Block suspend while event queue is not empty Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-04-30 22:37 ` [PATCH 8/8] power_supply: Block suspend while power supply change notifications are pending Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-01 6:14 ` [PATCH 6/8] PM: Add suspend blocking work Tejun Heo
2010-05-02 7:05 ` Pavel Machek
2010-05-04 11:16 ` [PATCH 4/8] PM: suspend_block: Add debugfs file Andi Kleen
2010-05-04 21:06 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-02 6:57 ` [PATCH 3/8] PM: suspend_block: Abort task freezing if a suspend_blocker is active Pavel Machek
2010-05-02 7:04 ` [PATCH 2/8] PM: suspend_block: Add driver to access suspend blockers from user-space Pavel Machek
2010-05-02 21:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-02 21:56 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-03 15:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-03 21:26 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-03 21:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-03 22:01 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-04 20:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-04 4:16 ` Pavel Machek
2010-05-02 6:56 ` [PATCH 1/8] PM: Add suspend block api Pavel Machek
2010-05-02 20:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-02 20:52 ` Pavel Machek
2010-05-02 21:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-03 19:01 ` Pavel Machek
2010-05-03 21:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-03 22:11 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-03 22:24 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-02 7:01 ` Pavel Machek
2010-05-04 5:12 ` [linux-pm] " mark gross
2010-05-04 13:59 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-04 16:03 ` mark gross
2010-05-04 17:16 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-05 1:50 ` mark gross
2010-05-05 13:31 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-05 20:09 ` mark gross
2010-05-05 20:21 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-05 15:44 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-05 20:28 ` mark gross
2010-05-05 21:12 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-05 21:37 ` Brian Swetland
2010-05-05 23:47 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-05-05 23:56 ` Brian Swetland
2010-05-06 0:05 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-05-06 4:16 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-06 17:04 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-05-07 0:10 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-07 15:54 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-05-28 6:43 ` Pavel Machek
2010-05-28 7:01 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-06 13:40 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-06 17:01 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-05-06 17:09 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-06 17:14 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-05-06 17:22 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-06 17:38 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-05-06 17:43 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-06 18:33 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-05-06 18:44 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-07 2:05 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-05-07 17:12 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-07 17:35 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-05-07 17:50 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-07 18:01 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-05-07 18:28 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-07 18:43 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-05-07 18:46 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-07 19:06 ` Daniel Walker
2010-05-07 19:28 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-05-07 19:33 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-07 19:55 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-05-07 20:28 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-07 20:53 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-05-07 21:03 ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
2010-05-07 21:25 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-05-07 21:32 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-07 21:39 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-07 21:42 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-05-07 21:48 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-07 22:00 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-05-07 22:28 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-07 21:30 ` Daniel Walker
2010-05-07 21:35 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-07 21:43 ` Daniel Walker
2010-05-07 21:38 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-06 18:47 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-07 2:20 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-05-28 13:29 ` Pavel Machek
2010-05-28 13:42 ` Brian Swetland
2010-05-06 17:35 ` Daniel Walker
2010-05-06 18:36 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-05-06 19:11 ` Daniel Walker
2010-05-07 2:00 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-05-07 17:20 ` Daniel Walker
2010-05-07 17:36 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-07 17:40 ` Daniel Walker
2010-05-07 17:51 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-07 18:00 ` Daniel Walker
2010-05-07 18:17 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-05-07 17:50 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-05-07 3:45 ` mgross
2010-05-07 3:45 ` mgross
2010-05-07 4:10 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-04 20:40 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-03 16:40 ` [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6) Kevin Hilman
2010-05-03 17:12 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-03 18:17 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-03 18:07 ` Mark Brown
2010-05-03 21:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-03 23:37 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-04 0:09 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-04 0:43 ` Brian Swetland
2010-05-04 13:59 ` Mark Brown
2010-05-04 18:06 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-04 19:06 ` Mark Brown
2010-05-04 20:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-04 23:14 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-04 23:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-04 20:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-04 20:44 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-04 23:56 ` Mark Brown
2010-05-05 0:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-05 1:11 ` Brian Swetland
2010-05-05 11:06 ` Mark Brown
2010-05-05 12:00 ` Brian Swetland
2010-05-05 13:56 ` Mark Brown
2010-05-05 17:33 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-05 18:36 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-05 18:52 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-05 19:13 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-05 19:22 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-05 19:52 ` Mark Brown
2010-05-05 19:55 ` tytso
2010-05-05 20:26 ` Mark Brown
2010-05-05 20:44 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-05 21:57 ` Mark Brown
2010-05-05 22:03 ` Brian Swetland
2010-05-05 22:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-05 23:09 ` Mark Brown
2010-05-05 23:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-06 0:21 ` Mark Brown
2010-05-06 0:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-05 20:02 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-05 20:09 ` Mark Brown
2010-05-05 19:39 ` Mark Brown
2010-05-05 20:56 ` Brian Swetland
2010-05-05 23:40 ` Mark Brown
2010-05-06 4:25 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-07 10:04 ` Mark Brown
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2010-05-07 11:21 ` Mark Brown
2010-05-07 11:29 ` Theodore Tso
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2010-05-07 13:30 ` Mark Brown
2010-05-11 18:47 ` Mark Brown
2010-05-07 11:41 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-07 14:00 ` Mark Brown
2010-05-05 19:07 ` Mark Brown
2010-05-05 19:20 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-05 19:28 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-05 20:04 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-05 20:15 ` Mark Brown
2010-05-05 20:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-05 23:03 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-05 23:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-05 23:42 ` Brian Swetland
2010-05-06 14:08 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-06 19:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-05 18:39 ` Mark Brown
2010-05-05 15:35 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-05 16:27 ` Mark Brown
2010-05-04 18:04 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-04 0:43 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-04 13:51 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-04 14:53 ` Mark Brown
2010-05-04 15:13 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-04 15:27 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-06 1:40 ` Magnus Damm
2010-05-04 15:13 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-04 15:28 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-03 21:50 ` Matthew Garrett
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2010-05-17 20:07 ` [linux-pm] " Mike Chan
2010-05-17 20:17 ` Vitaly Wool
2010-05-17 21:04 ` Mike Chan
2010-05-17 22:55 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-17 23:04 ` Brian Swetland
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2010-05-05 20:35 ` mark gross
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2010-05-11 16:12 ` Tony Lindgren
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2010-05-11 17:48 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-05-11 18:01 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-11 18:19 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-12 1:11 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-12 11:22 ` Mark Brown
2010-05-13 3:35 ` [linux-pm] " Paul Walmsley
2010-05-13 12:17 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-13 17:33 ` Daniel Walker
2010-05-13 18:17 ` Brian Swetland
2010-05-13 18:25 ` Daniel Walker
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2010-05-13 18:59 ` Daniel Walker
2010-05-13 19:11 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-13 19:36 ` Daniel Walker
2010-05-13 19:48 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-13 21:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-13 21:16 ` Daniel Walker
2010-05-13 21:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-13 21:33 ` Daniel Walker
2010-05-13 21:36 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-05-13 21:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-13 21:46 ` Greg KH
2010-05-13 22:27 ` Mark Brown
2010-05-13 22:45 ` Greg KH
2010-05-14 0:03 ` Mark Brown
2010-05-13 22:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-13 23:36 ` Mark Brown
2010-05-13 23:48 ` Brian Swetland
2010-05-14 0:29 ` Mark Brown
2010-05-13 22:33 ` Woodruff, Richard
2010-05-13 22:46 ` Greg KH
2010-05-13 23:06 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-13 23:28 ` Brian Swetland
2010-05-14 16:47 ` Daniel Walker
2010-05-13 14:16 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-13 19:17 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-05-13 19:25 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-13 19:42 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-05-13 19:53 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-13 20:00 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-05-13 20:08 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-13 20:23 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-05-13 20:34 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-13 21:10 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-05-13 21:21 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-13 21:34 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-05-15 19:54 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-13 21:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-13 21:25 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-05-13 21:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-14 20:41 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-14 21:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-14 21:40 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-14 21:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-14 22:45 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-14 22:59 ` Brian Swetland
2010-05-15 2:58 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-15 3:40 ` Brian Swetland
2010-05-15 21:19 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-17 15:40 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-17 17:04 ` James Bottomley
2010-05-17 17:47 ` Felipe Balbi
2010-05-17 17:58 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-05-17 18:16 ` Felipe Balbi
2010-05-17 17:59 ` James Bottomley
2010-05-17 18:12 ` Felipe Balbi
2010-05-17 18:26 ` Brian Swetland
2010-05-17 18:39 ` Felipe Balbi
2010-05-17 18:45 ` Brian Swetland
2010-05-17 20:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-17 18:45 ` Mark Brown
2010-05-17 18:47 ` Mike Chan
2010-05-17 19:24 ` James Bottomley
2010-05-17 19:38 ` Felipe Balbi
2010-05-17 19:39 ` Felipe Balbi
2010-05-17 19:49 ` James Bottomley
2010-05-18 6:40 ` Felipe Balbi
2010-05-18 13:59 ` James Bottomley
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2010-05-20 11:29 ` Felipe Balbi
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2010-05-20 23:08 ` David Brownell
2010-05-20 5:15 ` Florian Mickler
2010-05-20 8:57 ` Felipe Balbi
2010-05-20 8:57 ` Felipe Balbi
2010-05-20 10:05 ` Florian Mickler
2010-05-20 10:15 ` Felipe Balbi
2010-05-17 18:54 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-17 17:57 ` Daniel Walker
2010-05-15 20:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-16 19:44 ` Mark Brown
2010-05-13 22:24 ` tytso
2010-05-13 20:36 ` Daniel Walker
2010-05-14 16:06 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-24 21:25 ` Pavel Machek
2010-05-13 21:41 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-13 21:54 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-05-13 22:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-13 22:26 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-13 21:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-13 21:31 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-05-13 21:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-13 21:37 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-13 21:47 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-05-13 22:01 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-13 22:08 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-05-13 22:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-15 2:35 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-15 4:04 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-13 22:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-14 3:25 ` Magnus Damm
2010-05-14 16:18 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-15 2:47 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-24 21:24 ` Pavel Machek
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2010-05-07 2:41 ` [linux-pm] [PATCH 1/8] PM: Add suspend block api James Kosin
2010-05-07 2:53 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-07 3:01 ` James Kosin
2010-05-07 3:10 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-07 3:19 ` James Kosin
2010-05-07 16:25 ` Tony Lindgren
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