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From: Borislav Petkov <bp@amd64.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@intel.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	"eranian@gmail.com" <eranian@gmail.com>,
	"Gary.Mohr@Bull.com" <Gary.Mohr@bull.com>,
	Corey Ashford <cjashfor@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"arjan@linux.intel.com" <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
	"Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Russell King <rmk+kernel@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 3/9] perf: export registerred pmus via sysfs
Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 17:37:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100511153757.GA14408@aftab> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1273587915.1810.1.camel@laptop>

From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Date: Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:25:15AM -0400

> On Tue, 2010-05-11 at 16:15 +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> > Another point I have is that MCEs don't need pmus so we should consider
> > having the ability to decouple events from pmus.
> 
> Strictly speaking tracepoints are software events, which run off of a
> software 'pmu'. So no, we can't decouple, they need a 'pmu' context.

We could make this configurable depending on the severity of the error.
I'm guessing for further event handling through the perf infrastructure
we cannot run without a sw pmu context but on critical conditions
we need to run as fast and as sparingly as possible so I'm thinking
maybe adding some specially tailored callbacks to the MCE tracepoint
trace_mce_record, as Steven suggested.

> > What you basically want to have is a tracepoint which is "persistent,"
> > as Ingo suggested earlier, and it buffers MCEs occurring at any time
> > into a ring buffer until a userspace daemon or similar sucks that data
> > out for processing (critical stuff is handled differently, of course).
> > And this should work on any x86 hw supporting MCA without hw perf
> > monitoring features. 
> 
> Try building x86 without perf hw support :/

I dunno, maybe decoupling wouldn't be necessary per se but I was simply
pointing out that MCEs shouldn't necessarily depend on the presence on
hardware performance counters.

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
Boris.

--
Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Operating Systems Research Center

  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-11 15:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-10  9:27 [RFC][PATCH 3/9] perf: export registerred pmus via sysfs Lin Ming
2010-05-10  9:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-10 10:11   ` Lin Ming
2010-05-10 10:18     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-10 10:26       ` Lin Ming
2010-05-10 10:35         ` Paul Mundt
2010-05-10 10:58           ` Lin Ming
2010-05-10 11:04             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-10 11:11               ` Lin Ming
2010-05-10 11:18                 ` Lin Ming
2010-05-10 11:27         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-10 11:36           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-10 11:48             ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-10 11:39           ` Russell King
2010-05-10 11:42           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-10 20:25             ` Will Deacon
2010-05-11  6:34               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-10 11:43           ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-10 11:49             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-10 11:53               ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-10 23:13                 ` Corey Ashford
2010-05-11  6:46                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-11  7:21                     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-11  8:20                       ` Lin Ming
2010-05-11  8:50                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-11  9:03                           ` Lin Ming
2010-05-11  9:05                             ` Lin Ming
2010-05-11  9:12                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-11  9:18                               ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-11  9:24                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-11  9:31                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-11 10:28                                     ` Lin Ming
2010-05-13  8:28                                 ` Lin Ming
2010-05-13  8:38                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-13  9:22                                     ` Lin Ming
2010-05-11  9:40                               ` Lin Ming
2010-05-11  9:48                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-11  9:53                                   ` Lin Ming
2010-05-11 15:17                                   ` Greg KH
2010-05-12  5:51                                   ` Paul Mundt
2010-05-12  8:37                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-14  7:04                                       ` Paul Mundt
2010-05-11 10:09                   ` stephane eranian
2010-05-11 14:15             ` Borislav Petkov
2010-05-11 14:25               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-11 15:37                 ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2010-05-11 15:46                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-10 23:54           ` Corey Ashford
2010-05-11  6:50             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-11  2:43           ` Lin Ming
2010-05-11  6:35             ` Peter Zijlstra

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