From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755087Ab0EKQqR (ORCPT ); Tue, 11 May 2010 12:46:17 -0400 Received: from cavan.codon.org.uk ([93.93.128.6]:39282 "EHLO cavan.codon.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751056Ab0EKQqQ (ORCPT ); Tue, 11 May 2010 12:46:16 -0400 Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 17:45:54 +0100 From: Matthew Garrett To: Tony Lindgren Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Kevin Hilman , Arve =?iso-8859-1?B?SGr4bm5lduVn?= , linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Alan Stern , Tejun Heo , Oleg Nesterov , Paul Walmsley , magnus.damm@gmail.com, mark gross , Arjan van de Ven , Geoff Smith , Brian Swetland Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6) Message-ID: <20100511164554.GA17016@srcf.ucam.org> References: <1272667021-21312-1-git-send-email-arve@android.com> <87wrvl5479.fsf@deeprootsystems.com> <87632vhbs8.fsf@deeprootsystems.com> <201005102225.52431.rjw@sisk.pl> <20100511161227.GD13600@atomide.com> <20100511161448.GA16148@srcf.ucam.org> <20100511163632.GE13600@atomide.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100511163632.GE13600@atomide.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: mjg59@cavan.codon.org.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on cavan.codon.org.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 09:36:33AM -0700, Tony Lindgren wrote: > OK, so can the suspend blocker then become just: > > # Block suspend while idle, system stays running > # echo default > /sys/power/policy > > and the when it's OK to suspend: > > # Allow suspend while idle, system suspends when it hits kernel idle loop > # echo opportunistic > /sys/power/policy > > or do you still need something more to ensure the data gets into your > app and be handled? Yes. You still need suspend blocks. > The part I really don't like is the idea of patching all over the drivers > and userspace for the wakelocks/suspendblocks. I don't like the idea either, but given that nobody has actually provided any other ideas that would actually work then I don't think we've got a great deal of choice. -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org