From: Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Mike Travis <travis@sgi.com>,
Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>,
Mike Habeck <habeck@sgi.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
x86@kernel.org, Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@intel.com>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Yinghai <yinghai.lu@oracle.com>,
"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
Myron Stowe <myron.stowe@hp.com>
Subject: Re: [Patch 1/1] x86 pci: Add option to not assign BAR's if not already assigned
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 16:34:16 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100514163416.0e940f64@virtuousgeek.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BEDDD77.1050205@zytor.com>
On Fri, 14 May 2010 16:32:07 -0700
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:
> On 05/14/2010 04:28 PM, Jesse Barnes wrote:
> > On Fri, 14 May 2010 16:20:45 -0700
> > "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 05/14/2010 03:47 PM, Jesse Barnes wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Wow and they're using cards that want to use I/O space? Funky. It's
> >>> too late to get this into 2.6.34, but that can't be what you were
> >>> expecting... I don't see a problem with getting something like this in
> >>> for 2.6.35.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Most cards on the market provide I/O BARs as a convenience to legacy
> >> BIOSes; they don't need the I/O BAR functionality from inside a
> >> full-featured OS. There are a few, key, exceptions, mainly in the form
> >> of legacy-interface devices like UARTs and VGA (note that VGA has its
> >> own routing bits and is therefore unaffected by this problem.)
> >
> > Yeah, it's the "legacy" part that I'm questioning. I'm just lamenting
> > that it's dying off so slowly...
> >
> > And yes, VGA is an unfortunate standard.
> >
>
> I'm not lamenting that fact, because my experience is that what ends up
> replacing it is often far worse. Consider UARTs -- no MMU dependencies
> at all, can be accessed with four lines of assembly, and compare it to
> EHCI debug port, the driver for which is over 900 lines in the Linux
> kernel -- and that assumes that you're already in flat mode.
Heh, you're so old and crufty!
--
Jesse Barnes, Intel Open Source Technology Center
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-05-14 23:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-12 18:14 [Patch 1/1] x86 pci: Add option to not assign BAR's if not already assigned Mike Travis
2010-05-13 18:56 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-05-13 19:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-13 19:12 ` Mike Travis
2010-05-13 19:13 ` Mike Travis
2010-05-13 19:54 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-05-13 20:27 ` Mike Habeck
2010-05-13 19:38 ` Mike Habeck
2010-05-13 20:02 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-05-13 20:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-14 22:25 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-05-14 22:34 ` Mike Travis
2010-05-14 22:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-14 22:40 ` Mike Travis
2010-05-15 2:25 ` Mike Travis
2010-05-14 22:47 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-05-14 22:59 ` Mike Travis
2010-05-14 23:06 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-05-14 23:23 ` Mike Travis
2010-05-14 23:33 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-05-14 23:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-15 0:02 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-05-14 23:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-14 23:28 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-05-14 23:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-14 23:34 ` Jesse Barnes [this message]
2010-05-14 23:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-15 0:00 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-05-15 0:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-13 20:36 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-05-13 20:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-13 18:58 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-05-28 16:53 ` Mike Travis
2010-05-28 17:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-28 17:10 ` Mike Travis
2010-05-28 19:28 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-05-28 20:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-31 11:12 ` Mike Travis
2010-05-31 16:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-06-01 22:49 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-06-02 7:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-06-02 15:45 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-06-02 15:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-06-02 15:53 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-06-09 0:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-06-09 1:26 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-06-09 14:23 ` Mike Habeck
2010-06-02 15:53 ` Mike Habeck
2010-06-02 16:40 ` Bjorn Helgaas
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