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From: Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Mike Travis <travis@sgi.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>,
	Mike Habeck <habeck@sgi.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	x86@kernel.org, Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@intel.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Yinghai <yinghai.lu@oracle.com>,
	"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	Myron Stowe <myron.stowe@hp.com>
Subject: Re: [Patch 1/1] x86 pci: Add option to not assign BAR's if not already assigned
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 16:34:16 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100514163416.0e940f64@virtuousgeek.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BEDDD77.1050205@zytor.com>

On Fri, 14 May 2010 16:32:07 -0700
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:

> On 05/14/2010 04:28 PM, Jesse Barnes wrote:
> > On Fri, 14 May 2010 16:20:45 -0700
> > "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> On 05/14/2010 03:47 PM, Jesse Barnes wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Wow and they're using cards that want to use I/O space?  Funky.  It's
> >>> too late to get this into 2.6.34, but that can't be what you were
> >>> expecting... I don't see a problem with getting something like this in
> >>> for 2.6.35.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Most cards on the market provide I/O BARs as a convenience to legacy
> >> BIOSes; they don't need the I/O BAR functionality from inside a
> >> full-featured OS.  There are a few, key, exceptions, mainly in the form
> >> of legacy-interface devices like UARTs and VGA (note that VGA has its
> >> own routing bits and is therefore unaffected by this problem.)
> > 
> > Yeah, it's the "legacy" part that I'm questioning.  I'm just lamenting
> > that it's dying off so slowly...
> > 
> > And yes, VGA is an unfortunate standard.
> > 
> 
> I'm not lamenting that fact, because my experience is that what ends up
> replacing it is often far worse.  Consider UARTs -- no MMU dependencies
> at all, can be accessed with four lines of assembly, and compare it to
> EHCI debug port, the driver for which is over 900 lines in the Linux
> kernel -- and that assumes that you're already in flat mode.

Heh, you're so old and crufty!

-- 
Jesse Barnes, Intel Open Source Technology Center

  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-14 23:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-12 18:14 [Patch 1/1] x86 pci: Add option to not assign BAR's if not already assigned Mike Travis
2010-05-13 18:56 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-05-13 19:08   ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-13 19:12   ` Mike Travis
2010-05-13 19:13     ` Mike Travis
2010-05-13 19:54     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-05-13 20:27       ` Mike Habeck
2010-05-13 19:38   ` Mike Habeck
2010-05-13 20:02     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-05-13 20:09       ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-14 22:25       ` Jesse Barnes
2010-05-14 22:34         ` Mike Travis
2010-05-14 22:35           ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-14 22:40             ` Mike Travis
2010-05-15  2:25               ` Mike Travis
2010-05-14 22:47           ` Jesse Barnes
2010-05-14 22:59             ` Mike Travis
2010-05-14 23:06               ` Jesse Barnes
2010-05-14 23:23                 ` Mike Travis
2010-05-14 23:33                   ` Jesse Barnes
2010-05-14 23:40                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-15  0:02                       ` Jesse Barnes
2010-05-14 23:20             ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-14 23:28               ` Jesse Barnes
2010-05-14 23:32                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-14 23:34                   ` Jesse Barnes [this message]
2010-05-14 23:39                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-15  0:00                       ` Jesse Barnes
2010-05-15  0:14                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-13 20:36     ` Yinghai Lu
2010-05-13 20:34       ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-13 18:58 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-05-28 16:53 ` Mike Travis
2010-05-28 17:00   ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-28 17:10     ` Mike Travis
2010-05-28 19:28       ` Jesse Barnes
2010-05-28 20:04       ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-31 11:12         ` Mike Travis
2010-05-31 16:36           ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-06-01 22:49           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-06-02  7:31             ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-06-02 15:45               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-06-02 15:47                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-06-02 15:53                   ` Jesse Barnes
2010-06-09  0:53                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-06-09  1:26                       ` Jesse Barnes
2010-06-09 14:23                         ` Mike Habeck
2010-06-02 15:53             ` Mike Habeck
2010-06-02 16:40               ` Bjorn Helgaas

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