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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Brian Swetland <swetland@google.com>
Cc: "Arve Hjønnevåg" <arve@android.com>,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 7)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 23:44:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201005172344.46222.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim2b8cKnzPgN7m5zImb0hVDfqVjRidKNVoYi1yO@mail.gmail.com>

On Monday 17 May 2010, Brian Swetland wrote:
> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl> wrote:
> > On Monday 17 May 2010, Arve Hjønnevåg wrote:
> >>
> >> It should get out of that loop as soon as someone blocks suspend. If
> >> someone is constantly aborting suspend without using a suspend blocker
> >> it will be very inefficient, but it should still work.
> >
> > Well, the scenario I have in mind is the following.  Someone wants to check
> > the feature and simply writes "opportunistic" to /sys/power/policy and "mem" to
> > /sys/power/state without any drivers or apps that use suspend blockers.
> >
> > How in that case is the system supposed to break out of the suspend-resume loop
> > resulting from this?  I don't see right now, because the main blocker is
> > inactive, there are no other blockers that can be activated and it is next to
> > impossible to write to /sys/power/state again.
> 
> I guess we could set a flag when a suspend blocker is registered and
> refuse to enter opportunistic mode if no blockers have ever been
> registered.
> 
> It does seem like extra effort to go through to handle a "don't do
> that" type scenario (entering into opportunistic suspend without
> anything that will prevent it).

I agree, but I think it's necessary.  We shouldn't add interfaces that hurt
users if not used with care.

Thanks,
Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-17 21:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-14  4:11 [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 7) Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11 ` [PATCH 1/8] PM: Add suspend block api Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11   ` [PATCH 2/8] PM: suspend_block: Add driver to access suspend blockers from user-space Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11     ` [PATCH 3/8] PM: suspend_block: Abort task freezing if a suspend_blocker is active Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11       ` [PATCH 4/8] PM: suspend_block: Add debugfs file Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11         ` [PATCH 5/8] PM: suspend_block: Add suspend_blocker stats Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11           ` [PATCH 6/8] PM: Add suspend blocking work Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11             ` [PATCH 7/8] Input: Block suspend while event queue is not empty Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14  4:11               ` [PATCH 8/8] power_supply: Block suspend while power supply change notifications are pending Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 13:11   ` [PATCH 1/8] PM: Add suspend block api Pavel Machek
2010-05-20  9:11     ` Florian Mickler
2010-05-20  9:26       ` Florian Mickler
2010-05-20 22:18         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-21  6:04           ` Florian Mickler
2010-05-27 15:41           ` Pavel Machek
2010-05-14 21:08 ` [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 7) Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-17  4:50   ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-17 19:01     ` Mike Snitzer
2010-05-17 21:42     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-17 22:16       ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-18  0:52       ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 16:18         ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-18 18:52           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 22:04             ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-18 22:29               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-19  0:00           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 19:13         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 20:47           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 21:48             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 22:03               ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 22:34                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 22:52                   ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 23:19                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 23:42                       ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-19 20:39                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-19 21:34                           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-20 22:21                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-16 19:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-17  4:16   ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-17 20:40     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-17 20:51       ` Brian Swetland
2010-05-17 21:44         ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2010-05-17 23:32           ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 19:38             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 20:35               ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 21:14                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 22:21                   ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 22:56                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 23:06                       ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-19 20:40                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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