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From: Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: penberg@cs.helsinki.fi, mpm@selenic.com,
	herbert@gondor.hengli.com.au, ken@codelabs.ch,
	geert@linux-m68k.org, michael-dev@fami-braun.de,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
	anemo@mba.ocn.ne.jp, Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [BUG] SLOB breaks Crypto
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 07:37:40 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100518223739.GC5933@linux-sh.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100518223507.GB5933@linux-sh.org>

(adding Christoph and dwmw2 to the Cc..)

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 07:35:07AM +0900, Paul Mundt wrote:
> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 02:20:21PM -0700, David Miller wrote:
> > From: Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>
> > Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 00:15:46 +0300
> > 
> > > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:59 PM, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:
> > >> From: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
> > >> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 14:33:55 -0500
> > >>
> > >>> SLOB honors ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN. If your arch has alignment
> > >>> requirements, I recommend you set it.
> > >>
> > >> I recommend that the alignment provided by the allocator is not
> > >> determined by which allocator I happen to have enabled.
> > >>
> > >> The values and ifdef'ery should be identical in all of our
> > >> allocators.
> > > 
> > > Why? It doesn't make much sense for SLOB, which tries to be as space
> > > efficient as possible, as a default. If things break on sparc, it
> > > really needs to set ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN as slab default alignment is
> > > not something you really want to depend on.
> > 
> > I think it does make sense to expect that, whatever my architecture
> > defines or does not define, I can expect the allocators to provide the
> > same minimum alignment guarentee.  Otherwise it is no guarantee at all.
> > 
> SLAB/SLUB/SLOB all used to have the same BYTES_PER_WORD alignment
> guarantee, with SLAB and SLUB having moved away from this to unsigned
> long long in b46b8f19 and 47bfdc0d respectively. This was due to mixing
> 64-bit integers in data structures, which in the SLAB case resulted in
> misaligned structures and also broke redzoning (architecture overrides
> also disabled it completely). The SLUB change was made a couple of days
> earlier for the same structure misalignment reasons (64-bit integers on
> 32-bit platforms).
> 
> The default changes in SLAB/SLUB at least assume that 32-bit
> architectures can only address 64-bit values on a 64-bit boundary. While
> this is true for most cases, these have always been handled through the
> bumping of the architecture minalign values in the past. Indeed, this was
> the rationale I had for adding the architecture-specific slab minalign
> override in the first place. The kmalloc one on the other hand is largely
> just overriden for platforms with DMA requirements -- usually a
> cacheline boundary.
> 
> > It's already obvious from these reports that such dependencies do
> > exist.
> > 
> These dependencies were then introduced after SLAB/SLUB changed the
> rules, suggesting that not enough testing was done.
> 
> > So one of two things should happen:
> > 
> > 1) SLOB conforms to SLAB/SLUB in it's test
> > 
> > 2) SLAB/SLUB conforms to SLOB in it's test
> > 
> > And yes this is an either-or, you can't say they are both valid.
> 
> I don't see any reason to punish SLOB for the assumptions that SLAB/SLUB
> arbitrarily took up, presumably on an architecture that should have
> specified its own alignment requirements and simply couldn't be bothered.
> Making SLAB redzoning work with arbitrary alignment is another matter
> entirely, and something that should probably be revisited.
> 
> Anything that assumes more than BYTES_PER_WORD is simply broken and
> should be reverted.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-18 22:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-15 13:39 [BUG] SLOB breaks Crypto michael-dev
2010-03-18 16:30 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-03-18 21:24   ` michael-dev
2010-03-19  0:33     ` Herbert Xu
2010-05-14 14:50       ` Adrian-Ken Rueegsegger
2010-05-17 16:17       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-05-17 21:50         ` Adrian-Ken Rueegsegger
2010-05-17 22:37           ` Matt Mackall
2010-05-18  8:17             ` Adrian-Ken Rueegsegger
2010-05-18 10:27               ` Herbert Xu
2010-05-18 14:02                 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-18 19:06                 ` Matt Mackall
2010-05-18 19:25                 ` David Miller
2010-05-18 19:33                   ` Matt Mackall
2010-05-18 20:59                     ` David Miller
2010-05-18 21:15                       ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-18 21:20                         ` David Miller
2010-05-18 22:35                           ` Paul Mundt
2010-05-18 22:37                             ` Paul Mundt [this message]
2010-05-19 15:19                               ` Christoph Lameter
2010-05-19 19:56                                 ` David Miller
2010-05-18 22:40                             ` David Miller
2010-05-18 23:10                               ` Paul Mundt
2010-05-18 23:16                               ` Matt Mackall
2010-05-19  5:53                               ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-18 23:20                           ` David Woodhouse
2010-05-19  1:05                             ` Herbert Xu
2010-05-19  7:14                               ` David Woodhouse
2010-05-19  7:45                                 ` Herbert Xu
2010-05-19 11:32                                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-05-19 11:40                                   ` David Woodhouse
2010-05-19 11:50                                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-05-19 14:11                                       ` Matt Mackall
2010-05-19 19:33                                         ` David Miller
2010-05-20  3:38                                           ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-05-20  3:46                                             ` David Miller
2010-05-19 12:02                                     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-05-19 12:19                                       ` David Woodhouse
2010-05-19 12:26                                         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-05-19 12:48                                           ` David Woodhouse
2010-05-19 10:58                               ` David Woodhouse
2010-05-19 11:01                                 ` [PATCH 1/4] mm: Move ARCH_SLAB_MINALIGN and ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN to <linux/slab_def.h> David Woodhouse
2010-05-19 13:30                                   ` Johannes Stezenbach
2010-05-19 18:03                                     ` Manfred Spraul
2010-05-19 18:10                                       ` David Woodhouse
2010-05-20 16:49                                         ` Manfred Spraul
2010-05-19 19:11                                   ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-19 19:19                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2010-05-19 19:23                                       ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-19 19:45                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2010-05-19 19:28                                       ` David Woodhouse
2010-05-19 11:01                                 ` [PATCH 2/4] mm: Move ARCH_SLAB_MINALIGN and ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN to <linux/slob_def.h> David Woodhouse
2010-05-19 11:02                                 ` [PATCH 3/4] mm: Move ARCH_SLAB_MINALIGN and ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN to <linux/slub_def.h> David Woodhouse
2010-05-19 11:02                                 ` [PATCH 4/4] crypto: Use ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN for CRYPTO_MINALIGN now that it's exposed David Woodhouse
2010-05-19 11:08                                 ` [BUG] SLOB breaks Crypto Pekka Enberg
2010-05-19 11:16                                   ` David Woodhouse
2010-05-19 11:46                                     ` Herbert Xu
2010-05-19 12:54                                       ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-19 12:59                                         ` Herbert Xu
2010-05-19 19:51                                           ` David Miller
2010-05-19 19:42                                     ` David Miller
2010-05-19 13:49                                 ` [PATCH 5/4] Provide __dma_aligned macro David Woodhouse
2010-05-19 14:50                                   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-05-19  4:09                           ` [BUG] SLOB breaks Crypto Herbert Xu
2010-05-19  5:44                           ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-18 19:32                 ` Adrian-Ken Rueegsegger
2010-05-18 22:39                   ` Herbert Xu
2010-05-19  1:51                   ` Herbert Xu

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