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From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>
To: Kiyoshi Ueda <k-ueda@ct.jp.nec.com>
Cc: Nikanth Karthikesan <knikanth@suse.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dm-devel@redhat.com,
	Alasdair Kergon <agk@redhat.com>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	"Jun'ichi Nomura" <j-nomura@ce.jp.nec.com>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] dm: only initialize full request_queue for request-based device
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 10:39:00 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100519143900.GC24618@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinndXq8DkMBOUf5z8R_8lWRoRbDuOZ1LEmWeI21@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 19 2010 at  8:01am -0400,
Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 1:57 AM, Kiyoshi Ueda <k-ueda@ct.jp.nec.com> wrote:
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > On 05/18/2010 10:46 PM +0900, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> >> I'll post v5 of the overall patch which will revert the mapped_device
> >> 'queue_lock' serialization that I proposed in v4.  v5 will contain
> >> the following patch to localize all table load related queue
> >> manipulation to the _hash_lock protected critical section in
> >> table_load().  So it sets the queue up _after_ the table's type is
> >> established with dm_table_set_type().
> >
> > dm_table_setup_md_queue() may allocate memory with blocking mode.
> > Blocking allocation inside exclusive _hash_lock can cause deadlock;
> > e.g. when it has to wait for other dm devices to resume to free some
> > memory.
> 
> We make no guarantees that other DM devices will resume before a table
> load -- so calling dm_table_setup_md_queue() within the exclusive
> _hash_lock is no different than other DM devices being suspended while
> a request-based DM device performs its first table_load().
> 
> My thinking was this should not be a problem as it is only valid to
> call dm_table_setup_md_queue() before the newly created request-based
> DM device has been resumed.
> 
> AFAIK we don't have any explicit constraints on memory allocations
> during table load (e.g. table loads shouldn't depend on other devices'
> writeback) -- but any GFP_KERNEL allocation could recurse
> (elevator_alloc() currently uses GFP_KERNEL with kmalloc_node)...
> 
> I'll have to review the DM code further to see if all memory
> allocations during table_load() are done via mempools.  I'll also
> bring this up on this week's LVM call.

We discussed this and I understand the scope of the problem now.

Just reiterating what you covered when you first pointed this issue out:

It could be that a table load gets blocked (waiting on a memory
allocation).  The table load can take as long as it needs.  But we can't
have it block holding the exclusive _hash_lock while blocking.  Having
_hash_lock prevents further DM ioctls.  The table load's allocation may
be blocking waiting for writeback to a DM device that will be resumed by
another thread.

Thanks again for pointing this out; I'll work to arrive at an
alternative locking scheme.  Likely introduce a lock local to the
multiple_device (effectively the 'queue_lock' I had before).  But
difference is I'd take that lock before taking _hash_lock.

I hope to have v6 available at some point today but it may be delayed by
a day.

> > Also, your patch changes the queue configuration even when a table is
> > already active and used.  (e.g. Loading bio-based table to a mapped_device
> > which is already active/used as request-based sets q->requst_fn in NULL.)
> > That could cause some critical problems.
> 
> Yes, that is possible and I can add additional checks to prevent this.
> But this speaks to a more general problem with the existing DM code.
> 
> dm_swap_table() has the negative check to prevent such table loads, e.g.:
> /* cannot change the device type, once a table is bound */
> 
> This check should come during table_load, as part of
> dm_table_set_type(), rather than during table resume.

I'll look to address this issue in v6 too.

Regards,
Mike

  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-19 14:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-10 22:55 [RFC PATCH 1/2] block: allow initialization of previously allocated request_queue Mike Snitzer
2010-05-10 22:55 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] dm: only initialize full request_queue for request-based device Mike Snitzer
2010-05-11  4:23   ` Kiyoshi Ueda
2010-05-11 13:15     ` Mike Snitzer
2010-05-12  8:23       ` Kiyoshi Ueda
2010-05-13  3:57         ` Mike Snitzer
2010-05-14  8:06           ` Kiyoshi Ueda
2010-05-14 14:08             ` Mike Snitzer
2010-05-17  9:27               ` Kiyoshi Ueda
2010-05-17 17:27                 ` Mike Snitzer
2010-05-18  8:32                   ` Kiyoshi Ueda
2010-05-18 13:46                     ` Mike Snitzer
2010-05-19  5:57                       ` Kiyoshi Ueda
2010-05-19 12:01                         ` Mike Snitzer
2010-05-19 14:39                           ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
2010-05-19 14:45                             ` Mike Snitzer
2010-05-20 11:21                             ` Kiyoshi Ueda
2010-05-20 17:07                               ` Mike Snitzer
2010-05-21  8:32                                 ` Kiyoshi Ueda
2010-05-21 13:34                                   ` Mike Snitzer
2010-05-24  9:58                                     ` Kiyoshi Ueda
2010-05-19 21:51                           ` Mike Snitzer
2010-05-13  4:31   ` [PATCH 2/2 v2] " Mike Snitzer
2010-05-13  5:02     ` [RFC PATCH 3/2] dm: bio-based device must not register elevator in sysfs Mike Snitzer
2010-05-13 22:14       ` [PATCH 3/2 v2] " Mike Snitzer
2010-05-11  6:55 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] block: allow initialization of previously allocated request_queue Jens Axboe
2010-05-11 13:18   ` Mike Snitzer
2010-05-11 13:21     ` Jens Axboe

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