From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Florian Mickler <florian@mickler.org>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
"Arve Hj??nnev??g" <arve@android.com>,
linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xenotime.net>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>,
Magnus Damm <damm@igel.co.jp>,
Nigel Cunningham <nigel@tuxonice.net>,
Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
Ming Lei <tom.leiming@gmail.com>,
Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
Maxim Levitsky <maximlevitsky@gmail.com>,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/8] PM: Add suspend block api.
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 00:18:43 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201005210018.43576.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100520112642.74d93d26@schatten.dmk.lab>
On Thursday 20 May 2010, Florian Mickler wrote:
> On Thu, 20 May 2010 11:11:11 +0200
> Florian Mickler <florian@mickler.org> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 18 May 2010 15:11:11 +0200
> > Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu 2010-05-13 21:11:06, Arve Hj??nnev??g wrote:
> > > > Adds /sys/power/policy that selects the behaviour of /sys/power/state.
> > > > After setting the policy to opportunistic, writes to /sys/power/state
> > > > become non-blocking requests that specify which suspend state to
> > > > enter
> > >
> > > Yeah, one file selects behavior of another file, and to read available
> > > states for opportunistic, you have to write to file first.
> > >
> > > I still don't like the interface.
> > >
> >
> > Actually, what would be a better interface?
> >
> > I wonder why it is not like this:
Because I think the "forced" and "opportunistic" suspend "modes" are mutually
exclusive in practice and the interface as proposed reflects that quite well.
> > /sys/power/state
> > no change, works with and without opportunistic suspend the
> > same. Ignores suspend blockers. Really no change. (From user
> > perspective)
> >
> > /sys/power/opportunistic
> > On / Off
> > While Off the opportunistic suspend is off.
> > While On, the opportunistic suspend is on and if there are no
> > suspend blockers the system goes to suspend.
> >
>
> I forgot, of course there needs to be another knob to implement the
> "on" behaviour in the opportunistic mode
>
> /sys/power/block_opportunistic_suspend
>
> There you have it. One file, one purpose.
That's getting messy IMHO.
In addition to that you get a nice race when the user writes "mem"
to /sys/power/state and opportunistic suspend happens at the same time.
If the latter wins the race, the system will suspend again immediately after
being woken up, which probably is not the result you'd like to get.
Thanks,
Rafael
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-05-20 22:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-14 4:11 [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 7) Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14 4:11 ` [PATCH 1/8] PM: Add suspend block api Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14 4:11 ` [PATCH 2/8] PM: suspend_block: Add driver to access suspend blockers from user-space Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14 4:11 ` [PATCH 3/8] PM: suspend_block: Abort task freezing if a suspend_blocker is active Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14 4:11 ` [PATCH 4/8] PM: suspend_block: Add debugfs file Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14 4:11 ` [PATCH 5/8] PM: suspend_block: Add suspend_blocker stats Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14 4:11 ` [PATCH 6/8] PM: Add suspend blocking work Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14 4:11 ` [PATCH 7/8] Input: Block suspend while event queue is not empty Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-14 4:11 ` [PATCH 8/8] power_supply: Block suspend while power supply change notifications are pending Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 13:11 ` [PATCH 1/8] PM: Add suspend block api Pavel Machek
2010-05-20 9:11 ` Florian Mickler
2010-05-20 9:26 ` Florian Mickler
2010-05-20 22:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2010-05-21 6:04 ` Florian Mickler
2010-05-27 15:41 ` Pavel Machek
2010-05-14 21:08 ` [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 7) Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-17 4:50 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-17 19:01 ` Mike Snitzer
2010-05-17 21:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-17 22:16 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-18 0:52 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 16:18 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-18 18:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 22:04 ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-18 22:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-19 0:00 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 19:13 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 20:47 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 21:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 22:03 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 22:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 22:52 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 23:19 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 23:42 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-19 20:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-19 21:34 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-20 22:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-16 19:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-17 4:16 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-17 20:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-17 20:51 ` Brian Swetland
2010-05-17 21:44 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-17 23:32 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 19:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 20:35 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 21:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 22:21 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-18 22:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 23:06 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-19 20:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-04-30 22:36 [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6) Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-04-30 22:36 ` [PATCH 1/8] PM: Add suspend block api Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-02 6:56 ` Pavel Machek
2010-05-02 20:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-02 20:52 ` Pavel Machek
2010-05-02 21:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-03 19:01 ` Pavel Machek
2010-05-03 21:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-03 22:11 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-03 22:24 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-02 7:01 ` Pavel Machek
2010-04-28 4:31 [PATCH 0/9] Suspend block api (version 5) Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-04-28 4:31 ` [PATCH 1/8] PM: Add suspend block api Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-04-28 6:07 ` Pavel Machek
2010-04-28 19:13 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-28 21:13 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-04-28 23:35 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-04-29 15:41 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-29 23:39 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-04-30 14:41 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-28 20:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-04-29 3:37 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-04-29 21:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-04-30 4:24 ` Tejun Heo
2010-04-30 17:26 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-05-20 8:30 ` Tejun Heo
2010-05-20 22:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-21 6:35 ` Tejun Heo
2010-05-06 15:18 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-06 19:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-06 19:40 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-06 23:48 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-05-07 14:22 ` Alan Stern
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